IF YOU ARE A GANG STALKING VICTIM CHECK OUT MY ARTICLES ON NOWPUBLIC.COM UNDER "PEACEFROG".

Okay, it's TIME THIS IS BROUGHT TO THE PUBLIC AWARENESS., ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Criminal Community policing must end, stop the citizen corps disruption gangs running in your community now!

Protest the green laser use be these thugs!

Thank you for creating this poll.  We need to draw attention to it and get others to comment.

peace frog I have been stalked for nine years.  You need to add another selection "More than five years." 

Fifteen years for me

4 years.

I realized I was being gang stalked in 2004

My family and I have been gang stalked for 4 1/2 years now. They have made my life a living hell and I worry for the safety of my family, but who can we turn to? 

Since the mid 1990's.So called 'christians' along with police, fire dept,street racers, bikers, etc, now just about everybody. They absolutely ruin your life and reputation, blacklist you,move in next door, etc.Needs to be exposed.

will be at 9 years this winter, i believe the campaign was initiated in december of 2001

correction , 8 years this winter. After so many years of stalking hell, its easy to lose track of time.

I have known about my gangstalking for 3 years. I recently realized it could have been far longer, like maybe 10 years based on the similar behavior that occurred back then and now.

Gang Harrassment includes victims of Gang recruiters also. This is just another form of stalking that legislation needs to address. Along with organized stalking and domestic stalking. Stalking is Stalking. It's destuctive, dangerous and needs the attention of the DOJ before more lives are lost!

I don't konw why folks let it get to them.  The stalkers are SUCH LOSERS. Do you LOOK at these people? Some are well known and well-connected in the community but still such losers that they can't make it anywhere else without the help of a gang. It's like island behavior. They're inbred and so buried in filth that they can't hack an outsider.  I honestly don't know why people let it trouble them so much. Life your life. Watch them follow you around. Take them places that irritate them. I love to watch them join up and try to find things to bother me or f with my car and cost me money. Everywhere I go even if they MANIPULATE IT I gather their information. Then I post their photos.  I am going to continue to do this until the whole evil thing bursts and barfs all over them. And it will. Also .. when they infiltrate your family's life they feel very successful. Think about the reasons this should make you laugh harder at them. Every sword cuts both ways. I really don't understand why you refer to yourselves as victims. STAND UP. FIGHT THEM with words and blogs and PICTURES EXPOSING THEM. I know everything about these people. I know that they leave contractors dangling rather than paying for their POOLS ...  I gather every detail.  I'm going to make a movie.  They will star in it.  TAKE CONTROL. Do not allow anyone to LIVE YOUR LIFE FOR YOU.  Check out the losers who do this and that their financial success is based on joiing gangs otherwise known as meg churches and always servicing EACH OTHER and tampering with and ruining others' property. If they come near you take their picture, get their names, run them through public records, put them into an excel chart and find their common threads. It's VERY VERY easy. 

Tampa firefighters, ALL their inbred relatives, Tampa Police DEPT and all THEIR criminal relatives State's ATTORNEYS and their spokesmodels.  This is basically the NEONAZI GOP  stalking down anyone who iS NOT THEM.  
DOCUMENT THEM. THEY HATE IT THEY HATE IT. They will plant people everywhere and everyone under their pile of turds will try to make you believe that you MAY NOT take photos or video them. So, just like you notice they try to pick out what YOU don't like DO WHAT THEY HATE. STICK A CAMERA IN THEIR UGLY FACES. It will break and you will have to buy a new one. Keep buying new ones.  NAME NAMES.

MANY TAMPA LIBRARIANS

     Take down license plates, addresses, any tangible evidence that can expose all or most of the stalking group. In most cases you will not get them all because in large cities they are out in the hundreds, but, keep a little old-style detective pad and over time you will have a lot of the perps. Use a cheap pair of binoculars to get plate numbers from your home or office - LET THEM KNOW YOUR WATCHING. aLSO, YOU CAN GET LUCKY PICKING UP LOCAL BROADBAND CHATTER ON A RADIO-SHACK SCANNER.

it makes sense that 60% of respondents are saying 5 years or more. It took me about 4 years to learn about gangstalking online and put it all together. 

MANY of the gang stalkers here in this community are holders of licenses for shortband radios.  A good place to gather names is the fcc licensing lists, available online by googling. LOOK at both the licensee holder AND the certifier. BOTH WILL BE STALKERS. One will be a dealer.  Many of the certifiers are LEO. They are also stalkers.  
Latin KIngs from the couthouse robes to the street (ALL RELATED) Irish Republican Army, church groups. mega church groups, neighborhodd watch folks, librarians, city water employees, ALL utility employees, civilian members of the LEO ... the list goes on and on.  What brownshirt SNITCHES.

cops, housewives, mothers, gangsters, perverts, all in loving harmony against 1 man or woman.  At first I thanked god for choosing  me to help bring the evil pretenders to light.  All this time in their lives they pretended to be upright citizens.  But now they have been given the chance to be their real evil filthy perverted selves and wallow in the slime of the approval of their peers.  Now they are out of the closet.  They love it! or they wouldn't do it.  people dont do what they dont like and enjoy.  I always ask them (as I talk to the bug in my car)  Step out you, you freaks. Why you hiding?    

4 years, some truly extreme gang stalking experiences here, and of course the directed energy weapons.  My website is AreYouTargeted.com

Over seven years of this nightmare! The San Francisco East Bay has what must be thousands of gang stalkers including law enforcement, EMT's, librarians, city workers, loss prevention employees, managers, under employed realtors ( they're always driving around and on the cell phone anyway). The harassment extends to injured workers as retaliation for applying for workers compensation benefits.
Do join the Freedom From Covert Harassment 

I'm not sure exactly how long I've been stalked in this fashion, but I've experienced a stepped-up level of stalking for 2 1/2 years.  Prior to this, in retrospect, there was something going on, but it was not so overt.  Nonetheless, property damage, thefts and surveillance/tracking of some sort has been obvious for many years -- as least since 2001 or 2002 and perhaps earlier.

We need to get this exposed.  It has to stop.

started to tell my story on nowpublic and find myself blocked.  Maybe it's because I openly accuse  the Lockport police deptartment and other real people that I have named.   Well, if they are innocent then come to me and complain and I'll see what I can do.  And isn't it funny that hte very same groups accused of these crimes are the very ones protected from puplic scrutiny.  What's wrong , isn't calling me crazy enough?? Do they want to photograph the burns all over my body.  Do they want to keep the shame of what they do looking sterile and clean??, A coward is a coward, a sadist is a sadist, a killer is a killer, a voyeur is a pervert .  That is a small list of what they are..  Has anyone ever run a backround check on the perps before they are given weapons.  Has anyone ever given these sadists a psycho test??  Has anyone looked thru the walls of their homes and listened and taped their calls??  They are so phoney in their vigilante dresses.

sorry about the spelling , didn;t proof it

I think if you can ignore it it goes away,,but I never seem to win this one.  I'm not a confrontational person.  I never wanted a fight. Since 02.  I never would've believed it till it happened to me.

It started in 1994 ... guess that's about fifteen years if my math still works.  Details at www.nano-pico-femto.com

I have been gang stalked since 2003, possibly a little bit before. Someone I had known through a volleyball social circle in Raleigh-Durham NC first made his way into my email account, then my home when I was not there. I'm certain that he and others created bogus email threads in my email account. I know the people who gang stalked made money off of it as some type of sport - possibly gambling on when I might do certain things, what I might say, and for their hopes when I might commit suicide. Something needs to be done by DOJ about it. I believe deep inside of me that this is the big hole in our national fabric and unity as citizens of the same nation that is opening any overall security to any real terrorists looking to make inroads. Any terrorists will use these same gang networks to unwittingly do their dirty work. You watch.

      I agree this is is a real national security threat.

I think the DOJ should have an 800 number to call for these complaints. Sounds to me that most of the gang stalking is being done by organized criminal networks and/or to prevent citizens from whistlblowing on corporate, industry or government officicals of public corruption. Think I'll suggest it in my next 'Letter to America'!

Hi Donalds:

     Your good with Twitter. Maybe you can get a petition going for a DOJ inquiry or hotline.

For the past five years I have criticized the New Jersey Department of Youth and Family Services for dumping emotionally and behaviorally dysfunctional foster teens and young adults in our communities. In my blog "Apartment Life and DYFS" I present my case, which has led to my wife and I being gang-stalked and harassed by the maladjusted teens, caretakers, and others. These youths already roam our communites under the radar, with little interference by the police, so gang-stalking is probably no biggie for them. I believe that the state is not directly involved, but rather the private foster care agencies that are getting lucrative contracts for housing these maladjusted youths.

     Many people I talked to familiar with organized stalking are talking about the money angle. It appears to be a serious part of the motive behind a lot of this activity. Whistleblowers and plaintiff's in employment cases subjected to this clearly suggest the money motive to corporate and other business interests (including nonprofits that are very profitable for higher level directors, etc.) Unfortunately, the networks of stalking groups appear to have other motives besides money. David Lawson is right, in part, that this is a type of sadistic sport. Others are talking about a reckless Cointelpro civil rights trap the FBI is behind. Some are suggesting a type of behavioral experimentation like MKULTRA. All of these and more may be playing into the motive of what is clearly a widespread naational problem. Investigation needed! Call your local house representative and write a letter to them. You can find the info. at www.house.gov.

Thank you for shedding light on this postmoderm fascistoid crime.

CharlieB:
If you are on tiwtter, check out @FilitiaLuna She writes alot about the corruption of CPS. It's ALWAYS about the MONEY! Federal and State grants and contracts. Makes me sick, the lengthes people are willing to go thru for personal greed or power,

Peacefrog,
I'm calling the DOJ tomarrow and the NCVC and see where we're at. Then sending my latest 'Letter to America'.
Anything you can do, would be helpful.

Hi Donalds:

     If you want me to review anything e-mail me or post it to my newest story on Fort Hood on NowPublic. I'd be glad to help.

The first time it happened to me I had no idea what was happening I just knew people were following  me, of course everyone thought I was crazy but we who are going through this know we're not crazy, I think it funny that these freaks have nothing else to do but follow me, EVERY WHERE I go, but I guess they get a free meal for that days work. These freaks have been following me four possibly five years it doesn't bother me anymore. I know who they are and why they started in on me. but oh well.......................

Noticed it in 2005. Looking back started in 1997. Seems to be about my supposedly being "anti-government" which is bull, and also about my personal issues. I had commited indecent exposure, but either she didn't see my stuff or for whatever reason they couldn't arrest. So this was made a big part of it, but it was going on long before that.

I really didn't understand how or why anyone could make money off of doing this until I added the pseudo-scientist witch doctors known as psychiatrists into the mix. All this stalking is geared towards trying to drive the victims crazy and making them look crazy too. Those who look crazy are seized upon by the psychiatric community and hospitalized as well as put on psychotropic drugs. Psychiatrists get to bill insurance companies thousands upon thousands of dollars for their "treatments" and forced hospitalizations. These wannabe doctors can't even prove there's really any such thing as a chemical imbalance. ZERO empirical proof. The myth of the chemical imbalance is very profitable. I strongly believe that the psychiatric system is involved. It is definitely a way for the gang stalking to make real money. 

The soviet union used it's own psychiatric system to remove dissidents, anti-communists and undesirables from it's society. They were hospitalized. Could that partly be what's happening here in america? Someone wrote that the american military developed the modern psychiatric system to function as a weapon. Could there be any truth to this? 

     There are many unscrupulous people who will make money and enjoy other benefits from the suffering of others while turning a blind eye. Psychiatry has its own sociopaths. However, the idea that modern psychiatry was developed by the military to suppress dissidents is going too far. Probably, a more accurate description is that the state will use the psychiatric community torwards its own ends, including wrongful diagnosis of its perceived enemies with intent to discredit them. Likewise, a hand-maiden press was used to selectively report facts for an illegal war. I've been analyzing gang stalking for years and I believe the whole thing involves the ti's (us) as bait for high level criminals and political enemies of DC to get roped into a civil rights conspiracy.  In other words, we are a type of interim target-not the ultimate one.

I think it has been happening to me since 1997. I've managed to just live my life, but now I think they are doing something that is making me physically ill. Red inflammed eye, stomach problems, lack of sleep and terrible headaches. I sincerely believe in Karma and I know they will  reap what they sow, but it is tormenting sometimes. I know they follow me everywhere, come into my house and my vehicle, take stuff, mess up my clothes, leave stupid pennies everywhere...what's up with the pennies? Wish they would leave 20's instead.I have a really good job now, and I know they are there too. Just try to live my life and mind my own business, kill them with kindness for the most part. Deep down though I wish terrible things on them and hope they suffer 10 times worse than they have made me and others suffer. I wish there was a support group here, I wish we could stalk the stalkers, or at least have them imprisoned. It's like I'm nice to everyone, even socialize, but deep down I trust no one. Every person who tries to befriend me might be one, that is how I think now. I guess in that respect they have won. I still won't let them isolate me though. I will fight the good fight and do whatever I can to not let them win the victory of my total destruction or whatever it is they are wanting.

     You should see a family doctor and try to deal with stress related anxiety, insomnia, etc. I would recommend treatment other than psychiatry, because it is better not to be misdiagnosed. As far as the pennies, etc., they are using it to sensitize you after observation of you. They use it because it works on you psychologically. I use reverse-gaslighting techniques like binoculars out the window to take down plates, cameras, hitting the panic button on my alarm when theirs goes off, etc. If you have evidence of a criminal break-in document it with a police report. I'm skeptical of the police, but, they will not continue activity that leaves a paper trail. You might want to look up some live and/or internet chat groups for gang stalking targets so you can exchange your stories, etc. I find this helpful.

As a survivor of Cointelpro and "cause stalking" I have spent considerable time thinking about ways to bring this to the public forum and, hopefully, create laws designed to stop this insidious crime. The most simple and cost effective way to bypass the media and create public outrage is to get a black permanent marker, and to write on every single stop sign you can find the words, "cause stalking" under the word "stop". This, if done by people across the nation, will soon bring attention, and the need by government to change numerous signs, to the situation. Each of us can independently act with little cost, and our detractors are powerless to stop us from raising awareness to this cause; we do not need the mainstream media!

     I do NOT advise defacing public property such as stop signs, currency, etc. If you engage in criminal activity you will hurt your cause in the long run. Have you thought about writing your local house rep. and senators? Are you aware they have to keep records of constituent complaints? Petitions signed by at least 200 constituents have to be addressed by your local house rep. FOIA requests to agencies such as FBI have to be answered and preserved by law. Handing out fliers is totally legal and can convey a message broader than stop gang stalking. Check out my articles on NowPublic.com for some ideas and analysis. I blog about gang stalking  under "Peacefrog".

Good thread!

yes, be careful.  I thought i'd get the jump on the perps by sending my new neighbors a letter describing the stalkers and their tactics and possible slander.  It backfired as the neighbors claimed that the letter was harassment and I was charged.  The outcome is still pending.   Now I must handle this in court before a judge whos reaction to my letter may not be too kind.    

I'm thinking it would be nice to get a black marker and cross the "eye" on the one dollar bill.  but i think there is a federal law against defacing money.  (but not against defacing people)

It seems like most of you have gone through this longer than I have, and I honestly don't know how you've done it. It's been almost a year for me, and I have always been a very private person. Most of the time I don't feel like I can deal with it a day longer - but thanks for the tips and advice. I wish my life were anything but what it's become: a living nightmare.

recent targets should try to network with other victims online. If you want to remain private you can always create and use a temporary free aol or yahoo account. You will eventually meet people dealing with this and it is helpful to talk. Some groups have even set up free conference calling for ti's.

There are many of us also feel "that we can't deal with it a day longer" -- it's a common feeling I think, so you're not alone. I would also agree that it's like living a nightmare.  We're all hoping that the current political climate is such that we will be able to get this out in the open.  We have to do what we can to help each other.

PeaceFrog,
I'm waiting for a call back from DOJ OVC. The NCVC has the same story as earlier. That they are just a referral service with no where to refer TI's. I'll let you know if or what I hear back from OVC. There may be another avenue that has great potential, but you'll have to email me about that. I'm going to keep this poll in the twitter stream. Never give up. Never give in. The good of the collective whole are organizing!

At least 27 years (1982), stalking and street theater consequent upon my grand jury service and my participation in a demonstration against American atrocities in El  Salvador. There were some instances of possible stalking and street theater going back to the 1970s, but these were apparently not coordinated until my employer (the New York State Office of Mental Retardation and Developmental Disabilities) probed my past obscenely and organized everybody that didn't like me into a lynch mob.

Thank you Donalds for the continued efforts. It is only people, like yourself, willing to keep up the fight that will expose and end the madness.

Dear Mr. Graf:

     It does not surprise me that your political actions led to a governmental harassment campaign. This type of activity has longstanding roots. Former fbi agent Jack L. Ryan was dreailed in the late 80's and was briefly homeless after refusing to spy on law abiding peace activists. The twist here is that an enormous apparatus of informants are being used to target people through the stalking groups. It is clear that they are being enabled by all levels of government. It is a matter of an updated "vendetta" system used by both organized crime and police being put on steroids and used for purposes of the most powerful government in the world. Those purposes surely go beyond the direct targets of gang stalking into socially engineered entrpment of high level criminals and political targets of Washington, DC. This type of antisocial cannabalistic behavior is typical of rogue agencies like the FBI.

I just heard back from the DOJ OVC. She said she did research organized stalking on the internet. They still haven't got approval for their new fiscal year. She said she will HIGHLIGHT this crime of stalking when introducing initiatives for the new budget. Of course, she is on my new list for my next 'Letter to America'. I think we're getting there slowly but surely.

Thank you for your much needed efforts. On my end, I'm working with a TI on lobbying a local house rep. in her district whom we feel has shown backbone in the area of administrative/intelligence oversight.

Thank you for your work. My son and I were victims of gangstalking after my father died and his executor- or should I say executioner- took over. All of our rights were violated;our home left to us was taken, we were threatened and "green rayed" from behind the home, finally left on a cross country trip from hell: poisonings, mobbings, attempts to run us off the road, cop shot at us in Maryland, son was stabbed in thumb with poison almost died, false arrest, they stole and killed our cat, they stalked my 88 year old Aunt....and it continues to this day. Most vicious states seemed to be the Carolinas, Denver Colorado, near Chicago, and Thurmont Maryland.

It des not strike me as odd that Southern states would be prone to this activity given history including KKK "dogging" and what Chalmers Johnson describes as a more "militant culture".

Organized Stalking Petition Site - http://www.petitionsite.com/2/help-cease-gang-stalking-and-electronic-harassment

During a case in family court (Luna vs Dobson) Organized stalking happened to me. It takes its toll on your life. Ruins chances you might have had and makes you feel sick. It makes you lose sleep and fills your life up with fear and  darkness.  One thing after the next would happen to you by these gang stalkers.  What is worst is that they get away with ruining your life! It has to stop!! 

     There are many triggers that can cause you to get on a stalking list including family court issues such as custody disputes. I am suggesting that people try to make this thing stop. I wrote some articles on NowPublic under the scrren name Peacefrog about gang stalking. My suggestion is that everyone impacted should be using the FOIA to demand whatever information the government has on this issue. I link to two official DOJ documents proving that DOJ has actual knowledge of gang stalking in one article. I am urging that every victim contact your local house rep. in writing (you can find this person using your zip code at house.gov). There are laws mandating the preservation of FOIA requests and constituent complaints. This will put pressure on the feds to close down these groups, that are, in my studied belief, being run, in large part, by police informants. Petitions by constituents are even more effective than a single complaint. In some cases, if you get more than 200 constituent signatures your local house rep. MUST conduct an investigation. FOIA requests are easy, and can even be faxed, check out my model Gang Stalking Foia Request to FBI on NowPublic. The only way to effect change is through action.

Gang Stalking will only stop when the gaslighting vigilantes themselves come forward with their crimes. They may do this at some point if they face charges for another crime and want to make a deal for lesser time or wear a wire and reverse sting confederates.

The only other way it will stop is via a large cash reward fund step up via a nonprofit etc with donations from target victims via paypal, alertpay etc. The best reward would not be for the lower level vigilantes themselves but for any federal agents for Misprision of Felony or 'Outlawry' and acting in concert.  

carlstarr@hotmail.com

This is amazing how much everyone knows but it still goes on.

If you attended a Union meeting or made a $5 donation to the Worker's Party in the early 50's your life would have been destroyed, and, it would have been ignored. This is a new incarnation of McCarthyism. This is state terrorism.

I've been a "TI" for ~4 years now. All of the harassment tactics used against me by the "perps", are the same as listed here, and on every other internet website concerning "Gang Stalking" I've seen. This is of course, no coincidence! Most of the harassment I recieve is via "Street Theater". Well, I have become a "Street Theater" expert, because of the daily harassment I've recieved over the past 4 years! Through repetition of tactics, and experience, I m a virtual indestructable machine - when operating ANY motor vehicle. I don't recommend this for anyone else. I have surived numerous car accidents, and have actually profited financially in my experiences on the road with "Street Theater". While I break the traffic laws covertly, just as the "perps" do, I do it the best(as of this date in time), and get GREATsatisfaction trouncing these dunces on the roadways!

And Afghanistan talks about having a 'shadow government'.
I have to remember to include this in my next 'Letter to America'.

Been to many sites but have been censored as i named police and individuals via nowpublic and others.  Seems most people don't know the names of their perps but in my case it was easy to know who was doing it but the hard part  at first was "what" they were doing.  now i know what all the burns and things are from.  Don't mean to be redundent but just wanted to say that the perps should know that when we get to know what they are doing,  all fear leaves us and is replaced with anger and repugnance at their deeds.  remember, it is they who hide, not us.  i am only frustrated that i cant help someone catch them and /or fight them.  They would be really easy to beat if we were not so scattered around.   

     It would be helpful if we were all united by something like race/religion/politics, but, the system we has alienated us from such cohesive factors. We must aggregate by "awareness".
     You probably should not identify individuals publicly because of the defamation implications. I am aware that these animals desreve death, but, you do not want to give them the upper hand by giving them any legal recourse against you. 
     Here's a good idea. Find out if there is a Civilian Community Police Board or other body to make a formal complaint to about the POLICE involvement. When you make your claim, explain that the cops are acting in concert with local gangs to stalk and coerce you. You will be asked about motive-you know your history better than anyone. Keep an open mind, because many people are generational victims whose families were targeted because of political beliefs, etc. (e.g., anti-semitism). Being exposed to this has deeper roots than many victims realize.

Where we can get the same weapons that they use?

I have been  an ORGANIZED/GANG STALKING/COINTELPRO target for over eight years I have no criminal record and am certainly not a terrorist.. Something needs to be done about this, I don't believe the vast majority of Americans know this is going on. 

     Historically, many COINTELPRO victims have not had criminal records. COINTELPRO-style operations lead to a lot of political targeting, and, the collateral damage is often law abiding citizens. Look up your local congressperson at house.gov. Write a factual account and state that there is a lot of complaints about organized stalking. These letters have to be saved by law. For more ideas on activism and awareness building, go to NowPublic and look at my articles. Google "gang stalking foia" and an article about using foia to get FBI records appear. I blog under Peacefrog. 

Peacefrog,
Did you ever get a response to requesting foia records?

Great work Donalds. Did you give them FFCHS number to refer Tis to? Should someone put up a website that links the phrases "victims of crime center" and "OS/EH" and gangstalking with Ti organization contact info so that Tis can contact these organizations when they do a search for the Victims of Crime Center? 

TI's are already calling ffchs and other self-support groups. Great work would be to get the government or a governmnet funded group to provide real resources for Organized Stalking.

Right now the DOJ OVC is still in their planning stage of their new fiscal year and are waiting for budget approval. (Which has passed the House 

Has no one considered WHY a family member or lifetime friend, or neighbor of twenty years would suddenly turn their back on you?  These people are not perps.  They know you inside and out and yet they are part of the game.  WHY?  I watched neighbors become part of it and yet at times I'd swear they are totally unaware they've done anything wrong.  These people are not actors.  They are sincere, and family members that you have asked to research or pointed things out to them ... they leave you determined to help but return as though you never asked.  More to this than meets the eye.

Have you ever heard of McCRTHYISM OR COINTELPRO?

I have been a ti for many years and one thing for sure is technology makes it much easier for them to orchestrate there malicious gestapo tactics,cell phones,gps units and computers are key tools used along with alot of misguided,hateful and in my opinion foolish people who seem to follow instructions without cause or question as if brainwashed.They need to be exposed once and for all for perpetrating this utterly illegal and vicious form of oppression.Like FDR said...don,t get ulcers..give um.  

scaredstiff said: "More to this than meets the eye."

I would have to agree.  OS is a Kafkaesque experience and as guest said (on December 18, 2009 @ 04:05 AM),the ease with which surveillance can be conducted makes life much easier for the thugs who are involved.

I also agree with the guest statement (December 18, 2009 @4:05 AM). The technology enables this activity. Events like "flashmobbing" are not possible without GPS/cellular/broadband, etc. I think a major flaw with David Lawson's Cause Stalking is that it basically ignores this. Needless to say, the police intelligence/communications divisions across the country are in possession of countless terabytes of electronic surveillance. The FBI is notorious for its electronic surveillance "ELSUR" Index. This glaring omission in Lawson's work gives me the inference that he has law enforcement affiliations that are limiting what information he presents. The fact is that many TI's are logiclly deducing the nexus between the technology and the methods of OS. To give you an idea of what we are talking about, a single terabyte hard drive can be purchased for under $100 retail. Thats a 1,000 gig's. An hour of audio/visual surveillance in color is only abot 50 megs. I am sure there is a stadium sized collection of information compiled by law enforcement on these groups. It is probably ineptitude or political pressure that has prevented a case closing and prosecution under Domestic Terrorism (See Patriot Act Section 802).

Los Angeles Examiner Exposing Organized Stalking ~ http://shar.es/aObfX

It's been happening since 2003. Breaking into my home, vandalizing my car, street theatre, following me into stores, mobstalking, sabotaging my law work.  I'm an attorney and I was working to fight organized crime. Now I'm destroyed and my husband supports me. It seems to me they are trying to control the flow of money to leave the target in a vulnerable position and half-nuts. 

To "guest"  (Dec 22 @1:56 PM).  Yep.  This a perfect description and yet no one is doing anything, it would appear, to help victims of this ugly and evil program.  May God help us while we fight like hell to get this garbage out in the open and stopped.

Please google up the link below to the Los Angeles Examiner and post your stories there. Articles are exposing Organized Stalking. http://shar.es/aObfX

Thanks, Patricia and to all others who are trying to get OS exposed. It's outrageous that it's not out it the open already.  I wish all TIs well -- let's do what we have to do, peacefully, to end this.

Why do you want people to post Orgganized harassment stories to an article dealing with DEW's?

Quite often the Perps on your street don't know it's YOU they're stalking. The local cops organize the Perps by giving the activity a nice name, such as  community self-protection groups. The cops call meetings so the Perps can befriend each other in their common cause. The cops give the Perps tasks ahead of time, such as walking a dog, going to their car, walking down the street with cellphone to ear, driving to the corner, etc. They do not know the TI to whom they are doing this. (If they did, one of them could "snitch.")  The Perps just do what they're told, when they get the signal. They enjoy their togetherness. Usually a cop is orchestrating this, so they think that it must be in the service of all that is bright and right.

You can take advantage of the fact that they do not know that you are the TI. Imitate what they are doing. Put your cellphone to your ear. (Or buy a cellphone signal blocker and walk alongside them until their signal is cut off.) Strike up a friendly conversation with them. Get their names. Don't let on that you know they're stalking.
I forgot to mention that the cops get cooperation from whole neighborhoods, because the cops use federal money to pay for property improvements. They rent several Perp apartments/houses and move their Perps around; they give them cars to drive; they even provide them with dogs!!!!

Take notes of when the stalking occurs, how often, and what they do. Each action, taken by itself, is innocuous; but with good records, you can show that the overall pattern is total harassment. 

This is being taught to local cops by the so-called defense agencies. Military personnel are heavily involved. The Government rents houses all around the periphery of the TI and installs their military personnel for free. Some stalking jobs are given to defense contractors to organize. Everybody is happy. The military personnel get paid; the contractors get paid; the local cops get federal money; the Perps feel like James Bond.
The Perps' handlersinstall a GPS on your car; the Patriot Act lets them invade your privacy totally with video cameras and audio tapes; they monitor your computer and phone thanks to the participation of the phone companies. If they feel like it, they intercept your phone calls to pizza, plumber, etc, with their own repairmen and pizza delivery guys.  In any case, local businesses practically crap themselves in their eagerness to lend the "detectives" their business vehicles and logos (taxis, bottled water companies). And of course the power and phone companies are involved. They use the power companies to make a lot of noise around you; they use leafblowers.
They will put a "chip" in you if they can.  Beware of pelvic exams or any exam where you cannot see what the doctor or nurse is doing. If you are going to an unknown doctor, they can slip a pseudo-doctor or nurse in on you -- they put a chip in you so that they can let their military personnel practice tracking you via computer that way.

The Handlers of the Perps (the Defense Agencies and their contractors) want to make you aware of the constant surveillance. Their goal is to poison your environment and make you hate and distrust your fellow man.  They extend this treatment to your friends and family -- so that you start avoiding making new friends or contacting your family as a means of protecting them. (This is what Stalin did -- worked on his enemies' family and friends.) 

The Intel boys failed to save us from 9-11. But why should they worry about that? Going up against real enemies might put THEM in danger. This way they can satisfy their sadism and practice with their new weapons with no danger to themselves. If a TI goes ballistic, the nearby perps will be the ones who pay. Like Jiverly Wong, they become overwhelmed and kill innocent bystanders. The Defense Agency Thugs don't care; it's just collateral damage.

Interesting. The part about implants seems a little "tin foil hat brigade", but other observations seem good. Another flaw is that many TI's know that the perps know their identity because of eye contact, following, dozens of instances with the same perp in which even an initially "unaware" perp would become aware of the target,etc. Although I would not rule out that some perps are unaware of who the TI is.

I wouldn't have believed the bit about being chipped by co-opted medical personnel either -- until it happened to me.  And you're right, sometimes the Perps know their targets or they can quickly guess by the TI's agitated reactions.
This is the birth of Fascism in America. Our country has been hijacked and Big Brother has the capacity to hold every citizen in a virtual jail. Will Big Brother do it? You bet. The sad thing is that they are getting us, American law enforcement and firemen, to build and staff our own Perpetual Surveillance Prisons.

While everyone is so very excited over the health care debate and over the completely irrelevant struggle between Dems and Republicans, the US has been governed by a shadow government. The Shadow Government chooses and funds BOTH candidates, so that the Shadow Government cannot lose, no matter what John Q. Public votes.
Pay close attention to the speeches of Ron Paul, especially about the damage that has been done by the Federal Reserve (a private enterprise that takes our income taxes and puts them straight into their pocket). Ron Paul is right. Don't dismiss the "conspiracy" nuts too quickly; something is really rotten in America. The US Gov has been hijacked by a few bright, wealthy insiders using the misguided loyalty of our military to do their evil bidding. Obama is their puppet; McCain was their back-up puppet. China now owns America and your dollar is worth one cent. Who did that? Who bankrupted us, allowing foreigners to buy up and control America's roads and ports?
I wonder when our law enforcement and military dupes will wake up. 
Go to youtube and look for the videos made by GI Joe about Why we are Really in Afghanistan.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. (Screw the "bread and circuses" sideshow called  Dems and Repubs)

Also robbing the income tax base is the military. At over a trillion dollars a year (with supplemental allocations for war, etc., granted by Congress every year) it represents over 7% of GDP. Former CIA analyst Chalmers Johnson describes this as one of the hallmarks of the end of empire from Rome to the Soviet Union. Add up the net annual profits of the Fortune 500 and see the total is far under a trillion (it has never even broken that benchmark). 

Here's the video I mentioned above: Why we are Really in Afghanistan: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZD6xKNytrY
by RubberWilbur (this is the person I characterized as GI Joe)

Our nation is being run by arrogant thugs who are only interested in their own wealth, not the United States. And they use the Pentagon generals like their personal Mafia  enforcers -- to attack rival clans.  We the sheeple get to pay for their wars and pipelines in taxes and blood. 

From:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves?page=10

At the above website which contains Vic Livingston's expose of the domestic torture network that is being laid across America, one of Vic's computer-perp torturers, Anonymously Given, wrote:

From:
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves?page=10

At the above website, rhe computer-perp named (for the time being) Anonymously Given who regularly tortures Vic Livingston wrote:

My comemnts are abeing intercepted

Anonymously Given has threated Vic Livingston's life, in my opinion, when he points out that people who expose the domestic terror network die mysteriously. This network is incredibly evil

See this Newsweek expose of the microwave murders being committed:
http://www.newsweek.com/ed/174601/output/comments
See reader Cubatim's comments as well.
This evil system is being exposed but not fast enough. They're going to try to protect the Superbureaucrats who okayed this evil domestic Gestapo. . . even at the expense of more innocent victims/US citizens.

Are you sure that you supplied the right link?  This link is for a 2008 story.  And the comments to which you've referred are on what page?

The media can be used as a means of exposing gangstalking in our communities.  A few weeks ago I called C-SPAN's Washington Journal and asked live on air why no journalist are covering these crimes that are happening to thousands of people across this country, and asked the viewers to google gangstalking terrorism.

Calling into places that have large audiences and are on air live like C-SPAN and radio stations would be really helpful.

Thank you for calling C-SPAN (guest on Dec. 26 @ 3:35 PM.

Yes, it's a 2008 story but the comments of Cubatim are what you need to read. When I use the link I cited above, Cubatim's comments are there. Cubatim describes very well the invisible domestic Gestapo that is being established with the help of our duped (they trust the Feds) local police and firemen. People have to treat the demands issued from the Federal Government with suspicion. If the demand asks you to do an unAmerican thing, (e.g., persecute someone who has not been charged with any crime), police and their helpers need to refuse. Take back power from the Feds -- they abuse it.

I strongly encourage anyone to call in on a live interview such as CSPAN about gang stalking. This is a particularly good way to make the situation public. Simply state that it is being reported as a nationwide problem and suggest a google search just as the commenter above describes. Another great forum is live book events or live politicial events, open to public questions. Many times these are also recorded for later airing. Good work CSPAN gang stalking caller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know that we're all looking for answers.  Though this is an old article:  

"Vermont Infragard is watching our backs in the war on cyber-crime. Who's watching them?"----by Brian Wallstin 03/26/08

quote:  The current president of Vermont InfraGard is Rich Parker, the chief engineer at Vermont Public Radio in Colchester. Parker isn

Iquote:  The current president of Vermont InfraGard is Rich Parker, the chief engineer at Vermont Public Radio in Colchester. Parker isn

quote:  The current president of Vermont InfraGard is Rich Parker, the chief engineer at Vermont Public Radio in Colchester. Parker isn

www.7dvt.com/2008/nerds-wire

Why is it so hard for people to imagine that something is amiss in America -- that people really are being followed/stalked?

quote:  The current president of Vermont InfraGard is Rich Parker, the chief engineer at Vermont Public Radio in Colchester. Parker isn

"The current president of Vermont InfraGard is Rich Parker, the chief engineer at Vermont Public Radio in Colchester. Parker isn

Parker isn

I can't post my full comment.

quote from above link:  

Is anyone else having trouble posting here?  If so, post to peacefrog's FOIA article.

The quote which I've been trying to post:  "The local police might contact a local neighborhood watch group, Parker explains, "and let them know to be on the lookout for..."  (and then he gives a description)  

It's easy to see how someone could target someone who is completely innocent and set in motion the kind of surveillance that victims of organized stalking are experiencing.  So perhaps someone says, "We have to watch this person -- they're crazy and may be prone to violence."  And then the OS begins?  (Will this post?)

I think the problem may have something to do with cutting and pasting, but can't be certain -- it may be that a certain font is required?

So, there are spin-offs of InfraGard?  AgriGard, for example.  Are there others?  And are they accountable to anyone?

again, the article's link is:   www.7dvt.com/2008/nerds-wire

people that stalk are sick and god dosent like anyone that wishes harm to his children he dose my revenge so remember when something bad happens to you stalkers  thats god giving you a pay back for us targets he is on our side you will never win god is love and you are haters god always takes care of his children 

Guest on 12/25/09 7:02pm got one letter on the URL wrong(it's /id/, not /ed/):

http://www.newsweek.com/id/174601/output/comments/

I managed to run a search using, cubatim microwave, and miraculously found the comments section on a very interesting article from 12/13/08 "The Fed Who Blew the Whistle--Is he a hero or a criminal?"

Re: Gang Stalking, I offended very high up, and very masonic, so they do play a role.  However, I have been stalked by rich and poor, and a rainbow of colors, for 15 years.  After doing a lot of research it seems that many are rewarded with $$, increased rank or immunity.  However, many are rewarded by hassling someone who seemingly (because they are working from a knowledge base of smears) disagrees with cause.  Long story short, I perceive the top of the pyramid on this crime to be the round tables, secret societies, large corporations and the government, who have been working together to create a controlled society.

JFK Blows the Whistle on Secret Societies!
http://bit.ly/vXRZh

I found out a couple of days ago by accident what was happening to me.  Now I can call it something.  That helps somewhat.  I left my job, my home, my dogs, my sons, ages 18 and 22, because I feared for my life.  I moved across the country and "it" followed me.  I took a job teaching English in a foreign country and "it" followed me!  The "Street Theater" continued and I had so many potentially fatal "accident's" while riding a bicycle that I gave it to one of my students.  I was going to run again, to another place.  Using the usual websites to locate teaching jobs worldwide, I ran across bogus job postings, I received strange requests from potential employers , I ran across websites identified as a potential sourcea of phishiing, and my computer was hacked.  And after being marginalized for over a year, everyone seemed interested in where I was going next.  So, I decided to stay.  Wow, that decision provoked an onslaught of malicious behavior aimed at driving back to the US.  They even enlisted the help of students.
What is revealing to me about this last year is that "it" has influence in this foreign country???
This is real.  
Just want to share.

     Thanks for sharing. The CIA is running the show abroad for the FBI. The Church Committee correctly described the CIA as the foreign intelligence arm of FBI. Many targets flee states and countries, only to find that this is a worldwide phenomenon. Consider this, there has been a recent development of off-the-grid communities living in primitive conditions and highly isolated. A documnetary was made about a group of them living in Mesa, NM. Many are ex-military and were experimented on with depleted uranium, etc.

Los Angeles Examiner ~ Expose And Expunge Targeted Individuals of Domestic Spying Racket ~
http://shar.es/aQn54

I could not pull up this page.
What is it about?
Thanks.

Here you go.
Los Angeles Examiner ~ Expose and Expunge Targeted Individuals of Domestic Spying Racket ~
http://ow.ly/TbQG

Probably more than 20 years, discovered the police surveillance in February 2008, discovered the existence of TI's in October 2009.

My sister and I have been grouped stalked for 14 and 15 years. We do want this sick form of entainment to stop. It is a form of the devil controlling human beings, and GOD never intended on mankind being controlled.

The world has become a sad place. It is up to us to bring back hope.

Thank you for the information.  
I think gangstalking should be considered a hate crime as there are often
no other reasons for the actions of these "people,"  just pure, sadism, administered by
people of all walks of life.  The origins of GS are the KKK and Nazi
German - this crime is all about the art of hate.
They commit murder by staging accidents, by contract,  by suicides of the defeated.
Has anyone tried to take this issue up before Congress?

I have spoken with several congressional staffers, including one in my district. I have been informed that all complaints and correspondence must be preserved. You have a better chance of getting an issue addressed when you are a voter (they can check this info), and if you make a contribution prior to writing (they also note campaign contributors). Never send a check with a complaint as this is against rules, but prior to complaint is good. The last suggestion made to me was to get as many people to sign a peition for investigation in your district as possible. The more, the better, and a rule of thumb is 200 constituents in a district equals an investigation. Coincidentally, I spoke with staffers from Joe Crowley's office and Barbara Lee's. One of Lee's juinor staffers admitted her office got these complaints regularly. She could not work with me because I was in Crowley's district. Crowley's staffer refused to do anything but send it to the FBI- this is a joke since FBI is getting a ton of complaints and is running a COINTELPRO related to gang stalking. Read my article's on NowPublic under peacefrog or google peacefrog gang stalking to get my articles. A fellow victim and I am working with Maurice Hinchey's office. We are still hoping for further help (she lives in his district).
     PLEASE write a letter complaint to your local house rep (you can find him/her by going to house.gov and entering your zip code). All of us have to do our part. Think of the civil rights movement and how much effort was needed to bring basic rights.

I got this link from the Topix board. I was a gangstalking victim from 1995-2001, and voice to skull victim from 1996 to now. 

Hello.
I have contacted the FBI twice about this.  
I am living outside of the US and
have had no roots since June, 2008. So it is not possible for me to work through a Congressional District.
 Do you think the DOJ or the NCVC is "unbiased" and is interested in these cases?
I have written both the DOJ and the NCVC; I sent them information in the form of an fyi.
I also contacted Interpol because 18 U.S.C. 

18 U.S.C. 

There are clearly violations of Title 18 and other parts of the U.S.C. making federal jurisdiction available (the interstate nexus is huge jurisdictionally). The FBI, DOJ are biased and they have to have an agenda here. As with many other large Cointelpro's their agenda is doubtless dubious. FOIA now gives standing to "any person" so you might be able to request FBI records, etc. while living outside the U.S., if you have not relinquished your citizenship you surely can use FOIA. NCVC is funded by and is a mouthpiece for the DOJ. They are getting thousands of complaints a month according to statements from their staff.

Victory to Survivors of Stalking ~ Please Join the group: Stalking Legislation ~ Ideas for Change
http://ning.it/8CSoNp
I've asked a couple people with experience in petitions and stalking to write up one that reflects ALL needs for stalking legislation that will go directly to our local representatives upon signing.

That last site isn't working yet. You can join Victory to Survivors of Stalking at http://v2vtweets.ning.com
Thanks.

Since some of the gangstalking incidence appear to have no basis and are manifestations of hate, played out incessantly, with the intent to murder.  Shouldn't this activity fall under hate crimes laws? 

Have victims organized to meet, share information and propose action?  Is anyone trying to raise moeny?  Money can buy informants, investigators, lawyers, advertisements, etc.   The benefits of networking, at the least, would be psychologicalland empowering.
Can anyone recommend any safe lawyers or doctors?

Can anyone recommend a safe dentist?

Are there effective gps disabling devices?

peacefrog,
Would it be possible to communicate with you privately?
Given the nature of this crime and the fact TIs are electronically monitored, you do not know
who is reading these comments.
Thank you.

     If anyone wants to communicate with me privately and discreetly, set up a free e-mail account at aol or yahoo,etc. for the purpose and post it here stating you want to communicate with me directly. I will e-mail you an e-mail account I use and we can discuss things.

     This also applies to anyone wanting to get involved in group action like lobbying efforts.

My email account is ljill56.  Thank you.

ljill56@???

I am sorry!
I would like to speak to you directly.
My email account is ljill56@yahoo.com.
Thank you.

Gangstalking has caught up here in the Philippines. I dont know exactly how long i have been stalked because i thought it was just paranoia so i just tried to ignore it. But i might have been stalked for more or less than five years. I wonder how many people have been targeted here. I tried once to call a women's group but they just dismissed it probably because they were thinking that i was only a nut case. I hope to connect with other TIs here, im sure im not the only "bad" person to be considered as a target. What will i do? I cant even openly admit that im a TI because i will just appear crazy. Some members of my family and friends are already perps. Sometimes i just think that it is also a good thing because if something happened to me, they'll know that its because of the other perps. I try as much as i can to lighten up my situation. I try to laugh by watching comedy series but even that is hated by the perps. There are days that i feel down and i would like to cry, but i cant and wont because the perps will be gloating over my sorrow. I cannot even post what i truly feel on my facebook's wall because i know that some of my friends are actually perps. 

     Realize that many of your friends and family were former targets and otherwise compromised and/or extorted/coerced into doing this. Official government people and organized crime are all playing the game. I believe the FBI is the main instigator using CIA as a foreign intelligence proxy. I'm in the process of starting a FOIA litigation regarding this shit.

Hi Peacefrog.
Did you get my return email on ljill56@yahoo.com?  
I need to know if my emails are getting through?
Thank you.

Check out Deborah Dupre's articles today and yesterday of the Los Angles Examiner on Targeted Individuals and Cointelpro.

Thanks, Patricia.

gang-stalked here for 11 years, Kensington/Hammersmith/Camden - heavily suspect 'common purpose' see stopcp.com

Gang stalked for seven years in the secret family courts, Staffordshire/Warwickshire freemasons who were supporting a rapist, one of their brethren. 

I've been gangstalked for several months now, and my family is oblivious to it. I attempted suicide and the gangstalkers just upped the ante, telling me (during street theatre in the hospital), that I would start hurting people (i.e. murder), that they would burn me, etc...I'm scard to death that these things will happen, that I will be framed for a crime or somehow incenerated. They use code terms like "happy birthday" and "pizza." I know for a fact that the cops are invovled. I just want to know will these things really occur, or do they just want me to end it???

Peacefrog I'd like to communicate as well: elk31@yahoo.com

     About the commenter who sadly was driven to a suicide attempt: I have been through this for years and have studied the subject and networked with credible victims. The attacks are mostly psychological. They go out of their way to not use physical violence. It is my opinion that most of them have a bully mentality and many were probably targets at some point. They probably will never hurt you. This system is based upon breaking people down without physical violence. These people are weak-minded followers, similar to cult members. As far as the code-words they are trying to sensitize you so you react to them. They will try different words and acts and see what works like a focus group. I have confronted several street theatre people. Most back off right away. They are a bunch of sadistic pussies. Do not end your life over this human refuse. Even if it is against your nature and you are somewhat fearful, slap a feamle one in this face or embarass a male one by suggesting he has a small penis. These people are posers, they are a collection of zeros, without the mob they operate in they amount to nothing. You almost killed yourself, stand up for yourself instead. Get in their face-its the best way to quiet down these overgrown bully misfits. (By the way, if your male slap a male one in the face).

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

     Your welcome. Thank you for sharing your story. There are tens of thousands being stalked by these groups. It is important for people to expose this and your comment was partciularly poignant. 

I found documenting to government agencies helpful. After 10mos of a documented paper trail, I believe helped me to get assistance from a police commissioner in my state capitol. Also, photographing them seemed to keep them away from my personal space. They know that what they are doing is illegal. There are many organized stalking groups or topix forums on the internet to get support from other TI's.

Expose and Expunge Campaign ~ Petition
http://JusticeOnline.org

Peacefrog -  Am I misunderstanding you?  Are you telling a target to "slap someone"?  This would be assault and the target could be arrested.

Patricia,

Are you a victim of organized stalking?

Yes, I  was targeted 3 and a half yrs ago for blowing the whistle on a cybercriminal that is 'connected' to organized crime. He is still under investigation. I belong to a support group for TI's of Organized stalking at http://v2vtweets.ning.com
You're welcome to join. It seems to be growing fast this last week with very informative people.

You know who initiated it and it's stopped, which seems to be different from what many targets of OS describe.

How many members do you have in your group?  How many are victims of OS versus DV stalking?

     People are committing suicide, being financially ruined and driven mad. I am advocating an in your face approach. Also, a slap is not a criminal offense in most jurisdictions. Civilly touching someone is an assault. Criminally assault requires substantial pain or suffering (read the NY or CA penal code). A slap is harassment, exactly what we are going through. I stand by my recommendation that a stalking victim has a right to be offensive and use some force when they are being faced with extreme emotional stress (some juries have acquitted battered women of murder under similar circumstances).

We have 27 members. All OS victims. We do have a DV group, but no acivity on that group. Although my case is different, I became aware of OS just last August and recognized that this had happened to me in the beginning. It took alot of effort and determination, documentation and terror to finally get help. While I wait for this jerk to be arrested, I fight for the ones that can't fight for themselves, that do fight and are not getting anywhere, that won't fight for fear of retalliation. It's about corruption, wrongdoing and organized crime. A bunch of grown up bullies getting away with their illegal behavior. I fight to change legislation.

Global Online Petition Against Organized Stalking and Electronic Torture ~
http://www.gopetition.com/online/33163.html 

Sadly I find that those who I try to expose gang stalking to are not concerned or don't beleive it. Afterall it's not happening to them. Even the ones who manage it see it as it's happening are not concerned. I hope that others are having better luck than I.

After ten years I've adjusted to it but I will NEVER NOT fight against it! I will not give up!

I will never allow them to control me!  I'm in charge of my choices which consistes of how I feel, to trust or not to trust, what I think, do, say ect!

In the meantime I will live my life as normal as possible and turn their "lemons into lemonade!"

Someone asked - Do you think the DOJ or the NCVC is "unbiased" and is interested in these cases?

There's a nationwide program call Project Safe Neighboorhoods. (AskPSN@usdoj.gov www.psn.gov). I can't help but wonder if there isn't a link.  Like others, I must guess and speculate, however.

http://www.fbi.gov/inside/archive/inside020609.htm  (Take a listen, as it's said.)

PSN is largely about decreasing gun violence and gang activity, but I think that  PSN gives law enforcement (and others) enough power and money that they're able to do God-only-knows-what. 

"In coordination with the National Drug Intelligence Center, the FBI

quote from above link:  "In coordination with the National Drug Intelligence Center, the FBI

So, the National Drug Intelligence Center, the FBI and how many other federal, state and other entities?  Little to no accountability and/or oversight and we have the makings of a police state.  And then we have watch-groups, some of which seem to have run amok...  Serious trouble folks.  Who, but someone on the inside could connect all the dots

This is so frightening, knowing that the FBI is most likely pulling the strings. And the police are the informants, running amok themselves....

Yes, it's terrifying -- it alters one's life in unthinkable, unimaginable ways.  I hope we are able to expose it.  I hope and pray that we will see an end to it.  Those behind it are stealing lives.

     If you believe the people behind this are stealing lives I ask you to do two things. (1) google "gang stalking foia request" and print out the FBI foia request on NowPublic.com. Fill out your name and address and signature. Fax it to the number provided torwards the bottom of the article. (2) Go to house.gov and find your local house rep. using your zip code. Make a donation to this persons campaign via their campaign office. After the check clears (it could be as little as $5) fax a letter complaining about gang stalking as you know it in your district. Follow up with a phone call to a staffer and ask them why they are not addressing this issue. If they claim they do not know about it then tell them the Congress of which their boss is a member is funding a group called the National Center for Victims of Crime in Washington, DC. Representatives of NCVC have told several people, including me, that they are receiving thousands of complaints a month about this nationwide. 

I've been a target of organized stalking (also called community mobbing and gang stalking) for at least 10 months. I've been 

I've been a target of organized stalking (also called community mobbing and gang stalking) for at least 10 months. I've been 

peacefrog can you contact me through the mcactivism forum via private e-mail or through Derrick at FFCHS? 

Thank you,

Justin TI. 

Justin:

Set up a temporary e-mail at aol or yahoo and post it identifying yourself. I will e-mail with an e-mail address I use so we can speak privately. Its free and easy.

I have a few questions for those of you who have dealt with this for a while - I have been trying to educate myself, but am a little confused by the technical aspect and implications of the harassment.

When people say "shielding" is important, do you mean shielding from the radiation or do you mean it is possible to "shield" the harassers from achieving their objective?

I live in Buffalo, New York and for over ten years, I've experienced nearly every type of gang-stalking harassment imaginable from beyond coincidental mail, email;computer and cell phone problems to total strangers publicly stating and writing (on a public message board/forum) things I've ONLY said in my home and/or car.

For nearly two years my car would suddenly die in traffic on and off-FIVE auto repair shops could find NOTHING wrong with my car and I attribute this to some kind of EMP device.  
I KNOW that there is some kind of tracking device in my automobile as "they" seem to know where I am at all times.
I KNOW that there has been a HUGE campaign to discredit me, portraying me as a "violent offender," "dangerously mentally ill" and a "bad citizen" and I know this to be true from experience.



The Buffalo, Amherst and Tonawanda Police have been my most OBVIOUS tormentors.

The Amherst Police and other WNY law enforcement agencies have shared private information with a local, prominent VERY vocal pro-cop radio talk show host, Tom Bauerle on WBEN who proudly would quote me VERBATIM on the radio when I'd listen.

There have been SEVERAL occassions in which law enforcement have TRIED to provoke me into some kind of violent criminal reaction to "justify" arrest or to "solve a problem."

My crime?  No criminal record.  I'm an outspoken Liberal but not a member of any group.
I AM a loner (easy target) who's seen mental health professionals for ANXIETY DISORDERS ONLY.
 
So Buffalo, New York and its suburbs are alive and well with stalking;Harassment by those who have abused their authority for personal enjoyment;Sadistic, cowardly animals replete of conscience.

And of course since the police have so successfully portrayed me as "mentally ill" and "dangerous" in the course of their smear campaign against me, no one believes me and the sad thing about this entire "game" is that there is no nor ever was any justification for this misery.

Nothing I'd love more than a "logical" explanation from law enforcement as to the "why's" but I long since given up on the police having the conscience, maturity and decency to grow up and actually focus their time 

Scott S - 

I don't know how we're going to stop it, but it must end.  How they continue to get away with it is quite beyond me.  It has to stop.

Scott:

     Many people are going through what your going through. The problem is there is a large amount of demoralization and atomization amongst the victimized targets. I have a few suggestions for you and other targets that will require little more than the time it took you to post your thoughtful comment.
     Write your local congress rep. You can find this person at house.gov by entering your zip code. Your story is lucid and clear. I have spoken with congressional staffers from my district and other districts. A junior staffer told me that  these complaints are being received regularly. Furthermore, rules require congress reps. to keep a record of complaints whether received by fax, letter or e-mail (all available at the reps website). A small contribution can help open the door to a staffer. Many congresspersons get a majority of their campaign financed by small donors ($20, $50). You will have to take the initiative to call back after you send a letter complaining of gang stalking in your district. If you send a donation check to the reps. campaign office then send a letter a week or so after. Also, if you can find several targets in your district send a petition to investigate gang stalking signed by all of them.
     Read my articles under blogger name Peacefrog on NowPublic. My gang stalking FOIA request to the FBI gives the relevant info needed to mail or fax a FOIA request to the FBI. All federal agencies including FBI must both respond to and preserve all FOIA requests and responses to them. This activity is so widespread that informants and other mass surveillance would put it in the lap of the FBI even if they weren't looking for it. Remember, we all need to do our part to get this exposed and corrected. Too many people want to leave it to other victims to work on. The more of us that complain, the harder it will be to ignore us. Good luck, and keep us posted on your efforts.

I think it is no longer enough to just Say you are a victim of Gang/ Group Stalking. I think we MUST name our harassers (if we know who they are) I know mine is Elisabeth (Libby) O'Malley from AIA San Diego. She put my name on this List and I have been stalked, harrassed, violated and much more. She is a nasty vile excuse for a human being. We MUST do More to put this into the mainstream media and into the public domain. 

Hi Peacefrog, great site here, as with most of the comment sections after your Now Public articles. Thank you for your time the other day. I appreciated the opportunity to talk to you  over the phone. Please keep us posted regarding your efforts.

Justin TI, Ottawa, Canada.

If you are a male with friend or self, dare them to follow you in a real bad area of towm, better yet, go grocery shopping....Make a game out of it...DO NOT let them get you down.
Real rumors are out that they are mysteriously disappearing
and children are being sent to foster homes and some are being charged with  child abuse for getting them involved in dangerious stalking episodes. Call Child protection on known stalkers using children .Make them rear end you...There fault !!!
Have your own shows in the food stores to counter, with  friend,.mock, make fun....I DO !!
Always have somebody with you, especially women

Later gators

     I think becoming confrontational in a smart, calculated way is a good defense. I think going to Child Protective Services regarding lowlifes who use foster children to do this is great. I have a little experience with the Family Court Act in NYS and the best interest of the child never would excuse teaching them such delinquent behavior. Thanks for the original comment.

Organized Stalking - An Ignored Terrorism
http://ideascale.com/t/UB3dZGgA 

DOJ: Enforcing Existing Laws ~
http://ideascale.com/t/UB3VZFzo 

Patricia those are great posts above! I am currently trying to comment and vote on the "Existing Laws" post but they are not sending me any of my 25 requests for the confimation e-mail. I'll keep waiting though. I'll keep checking to see if others post. Again, wonderful idea!

- Justin. 

     One way I have gotten around email and posting problems is to download another browser (firefox, google chrome, etc.). I have also created temp emails when problems arose with email. Just a suggestion.

Patricia -

Both of the above links are now invalid.  Any suggestions?  Did you save the information and could you post it here or somewhere else.  Thanks.

to access "Enforcing Existing Laws"

http://opendoj.ideascale.com/a/dtd/21694-7036

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:VQbuV1UIuwkJ:openhomelandsecurity.ideascale.com/a/dtd/24217-7043 organized stalking an ignored terroism

The above link takes one to what is stored in cache.  The comment/suggestion was apparently deleted.

I posted a link to the DOJ Open Idea forum on PeaceFrogs FOIA article on NowPublic. The DHS post was put in another category (I didn't word it right) 

okay so now there is a website..but what has anyone actually done about this?

WHAT HAS ANYONE ACTUALLY DONE TO STOP THIS??? 

CAN WE JUST STOP TALKING AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO END THIS SHIT?

     Patricia's DOJ open forum allows you to vote and bring the government's attention to organized stalking victims. This is "doing something", I suggest everyone vote. Other action is necessary. Frank Raffaele from NJ put out thousands of leaflets on organized stalking in his area getting an article in the Verona Cedar Grove Times and police attention-they couldn't stop, him he's protected by the FIRST Amendment. I am currently working with others to lobby local congress reps. I am also making FOIA requests to the FBI and DOJ. I am demanding the DOJ Office of Justice Programs give me data related to their 2006 Supplemental Victimization Survey used to compile the Special Report "Stalking Victimization in the United States". I will be litigating these matters in Brooklyn District Court unless I receive full cooperation in the administrative stage of the FOIA. If you only make minimal efforts you can help bring awareness. Mass email, blog, make FOIA requests, write your local congressperson, etc. These things take WORK.

Back in '06, when I was being ignored here locally by law enforcement, I realized I had to go outside the county. I wrote 'Letters to America' to every commission in the government (all signed return receipt). They would assign me a case number and tell me to try another office. It was this documentation and continued effort and determination that caught the attention of a police commisssioner at my state capitol. He came right away and had the authority to call the FBI and the National Guard showed up as well as the media. It had escalated to dangerous gang members by this time. I kept complaining that I was about to be whacked or framed. This May, it will be 3yrs since they all came. All I've been told is that 'this is a federal investigation'. And that 'there are bigger fish to fry'.

     I appreciate your efforts. However, the FBI is criminal in this matter given that they know victims are being faced with civil death, driven to suicide, madness, homicide and in some cases mass murder. I do believe collaboration is necessary, but, the FBI and DOJ have less moral standing than the NAZI's did. This is being done without them facing a two front war with a shortage of food, etc., as their Nazi brethren did.

Patricia,

I posted the DOJ link to 3 of the major OS/EH related yahoo groups with over 700 members (many TIs I assume) with the activism suggestion that they go to the site, vote and leave a well "information handled" comment. It apears that not one person has voted at the DOJ site or left a comment under your "Enforce Existing Laws" section. Wild!

- Justin. 

     I voted to "enforce existing laws", I believe I was the 9th vote. I also suggest adding some info. related to the statistics in DOJ Office of Justice Programs, Stalking Victimization in the United States, and the Supplemental Victimization Survey bu OJP and Bureau of Justice Statistics from 10/2006 that was used in compiling the Stalking Report. Both are linked in my article "Evidence Proves DOJ knows about Gang Stalking" on NowPublic.

Justin:

What's up? Can't you see 17 people already voted to AGREE that existing stalking laws should be enforced to curb organized stalking. The one vote and one comment disagreeing sounds like a government disinformation agent.

My point above is that there are over 700 members on the various "MC" yahoo forums. I've posed Donald's DOJ link with the suggestion that the TIs on those forums vote on the DOJ site X2. Yet, no one has. There were close to 17 votes when I made those posts on the "MC" sites suggesting that TIs vote on the DOJ site. My point is: Can you imagine if there were hundreds of postive votes and effetive comments rather than just 17?  This must be the "atomization" you described in a previous post Peacefrog, - I'm frustrated by the lack of a unified TI voice, the seeming effectivness of the disinformation process. Your right though, things take time. I'll be more patient. 

- Justin. 

I'm very surprised that only 17 people have voted.

     Give it time. This survey took almost 5 months to get to 150 votes. People will come around to voting.

Well, in this case, I believe that 50 votes are needed by March 30th. Correct me, if I'm wrong.

Check out "Eleanor White's" comment:

"National Center for Victims of Crime (NCVC) has stated to an organized stalking target and lawyer that they receive "thousands of calls per month" relating to organized stalking. They also state that they do not act on this torrent of calls.

NCVC is a DOJ affiliated organization, as best I know, and I'd like to know why NCVC acts on calls about single stalker cases but ignores group stalker cases. Multiple people ganging up on individuals has been going on since the beginning of the human species, after all."   

signed by Eleanor White and posted to http://opendoj.ideascale.com/a/dtd/21694-7036

Justin,
You remind me of me. I get impatient and can't believe people don't vote IMMEDIATELY. It does take time though. There's 18 votes now. Eleanor White just voted and left a good comment. I think it was from your suggestion. And thank you for posting it everywhere you can. It WILL make a difference. Thanks to everyone fighting this fight. We will get there!

Patricia -

I agree.  We're getting there.  I have faith that organized stalking will be exposed and revealed for what it is.   I believe that the cowards, bullies and criminals (among others) who participate will be exposed, as well.  Hopefully, some will be held accountable.

Yes, I've been living in hell's hell.  I do believe part of the solution is awareness as in awareness is prevention.  Most people given the totality of what they are participating in will not do so.  Most participants are simply ignorant, some are paid and others are simply perverted.  The terrorists have invaded our borders while the focus was outside searching for "weapons of mass destruction".  It's also interesting how the ACLU advised of the advent of "full body scanners" and several weeks later we had an "underpants bomber".  Gang stalking is true terror and assault on American ideology.

Check out 911Truth -- many people believe 911 was an inside job.  Follow the money!@!  The buildings fell as if they were actually scheduled for demolition.

Break the prozac's in half-

Bill Maher- comedian and philospher

Your right Patricia, 
It takes time, and yes, I saw Eleanor White's Comments on the DOJ vote site! That is just wonderful. It's great she could get in there to comment from Canada. I wonder if Peacefrog's suggestion makes sense to add more "information handled" links and info? Hopefully strong, clear and honest TIs (like you guys) will keep an eye out for disinfo and get in there and harness its momentum via and into truth, should it be posted again.

- Justin.

- Justin. 

     ALSO TWITTER COULD BE USED AND FACEBOOK TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE TO VOTE ON PATRICIA'S POLL.

PeaceFrog,
We're up to 24 votes last check. I've got a cool twitter team and have been running it thru the stream every so often. Have been getting 1 vote each time I run the stream thru.

I agree Peacefrog, regarding facebook and twitter for Patricia's poll. I think someone should add the links to your related Now Public articles if they would, to the comments section of Patricia's poll. I can't get in there, probably because of my Canadian IP address.

Peacefrog, that is another powerfull article that you posted today on Now Public (Feb 17/10)! Thank you.

- Justin. 

Justin,
I think because of you posting it places also, they are starting to respond.
Oh, did you see the DOJ idea about the directed energy weapon?. He said the NSA announced that they are going to investigate DEW's and psychops on US soil and "irradicate" it.

Yes Patricia,

I saw that post on "Project Geneva" and have not been able to find any confirmation for what that poster says. I sure hope it's true.

- Justin. 

I couldn't find it either. It says it was announced at a "confidential briefing". The guy who posted it is ex-milatary and was a target of DEW's in the past.

PeaceFrog,
What happened to your article on "Official Documents Prove DOJ Knows About Gang Stalking"?

EDITOR BLOGGER "GENERALDECAY" FLAGGED IT AS SPAM. I WONDER HOW MANY "BLOGGERS" AND "EDITORS" ARE FBI. YOU CAN TELL BECAUSE SOME HAVE THOUSANDS OF STORIES AND MILLIONS OF HITS, MORE THAN ONE PERSON IS HANDLING THE SCREEN-NAME. I SENT A NICE EMAIL AND RE-POSTED.

Great work Peacefrog (Esq)! Another Strong article that TIs can reference. I just linked it across the "MC" chat groups and sent it to Derrick at FFCHS.

I hope you don't mind Patricia that I also sent the link to your DOJ Poll to Derrick and asked him to send it out to TIs. I gave a strong caveat that any TIs posting comments, apply strong "information handling" in the spirit of you original post and that they read Eleanor White's post there first as well. Derrick responded that it was a great idea and that he would pass "Donald's Poll" on.

I still can't get on there. I keep getting a Java Script Error when loading the poll page, and can't leave comments. Otherwise, I would have linked Peace frogs DOJ and FOIA articles, in the comments section for other TIs and DOJ officials to read. 

Then again, when ever I load a page related to TI activism, the main advertisement links on the page are replaced or filled in completely with only bright red colour to replace the add. Must be the same "BLOGGERS" and "EDITORS" types mentioned above. 

- Justin.

Thanks Justin for giving it to Derrick. I was going to try to do that myself. I think I've burnt out my fb and twitter followers.
:)

I posted my last "Letter to America" on http://v2vtweets.ning.com and tweeted it, facebooked it to a bunch of White House media and policticians.

I've been a target for a few months - at the hands of an ex bf with these mobster connections.  The intentions appear to be to "make" me like him (and of course it made me dislike him more than I already did) and/or make me one of them (not possible since I am not a sick psycho who would enjoy hurting innocent people. I don't think the gov't is behind it in my case, but I think this is about MONEY - that some (not all) in gov't might protect them, make it that much harder to prosecute them.  (And in my case I have evidence pointing to several individuals.)  Since my internet is hacked, phone calls are intercepted etc. it's that much harder to get this done.  But the fact that they have to intercept email and phone indicates that they don't have full gov't support.

This is about money - the money paid by some psycho to allow the perp ex harass me this way, the money made by perps and others with these kind of hacking skills.  The worst is that the clowns (as I like to call the perps for obvious reasons) are so arrogant and anti-social that they find some way to justify their stupid selves in hurting innocent people including children.  But history often tells us about the downfall of arrogant people.  It's just a matter of time.

     EVERYONE, SIGN UP AND VOTE FOR THE PETITION FOR DOJ TO ENFORCE EXISTING STLKING LAWS AGAINST GANG STALKING GROUPS. iT IS ON AN OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT OPEN IDEAS FORUM. iT WILL TAKE LESS THAN TWO MINUTES, THE LINK:

http://opendoj.ideascale.com/a/dtd/21694-7036

I am a victim of gang stalking. It has been going on for the last 7 months. I have come to believe it
involves drugs/money, but I think it started out as adultery being committed by my husband. I don't think he knew the whole truth about this person until after the affair got started. 
He made the comment to me before I suspected him of another woman  that "he had gotten himself into a bad mess". That coupled with many other things has made it clear he is having an affair but he denies it even so today. He is aware it is my belief that he is having an affair and that I think drugs is somehow involved. 
I have told him I am watched, followed everywhere I go. He tells me he doesn't believe it. I am imagining it all. He has no concern about it. I know he knows about me being stalked......he comes home in the evening and tells me everything I have done including whatever reaction I may have taken against these stalkers. But then in his words " I am crazy, sick minded and imaging it all".
He's a real sweetheart isn't he?

     If you can then hire a good divorce lawyer. Make sure to talk about who they use as a private investigator. You want a quality investigator. His links with a local stalking group can be tracked both in the past and ongoing by a private investigator with the proper training and equipment. You can peek at his cell phone records, texts and e-mail. Consider bugging your own place. Check out spytechs.com for a lot of gadgets.

 I CREATED THIS POLL AND I AM ASKING EVERYONE WHO VOTES AND/OR COMMENTS TO PLEASE TAKE TWO MINUTES TO SIGN UP AND VOTE FOR A DOJ PETITION TO ENFORCE STALKING LAWS AGAINST GANG STALKING GROUPS. THE LINK:

http://opendoj.ideascale.com/a/dtd/21694-7036

Hi Peacefrog,

Looks from my end that the DOJ Poll is locked "pending moderator approval." What do you make of that?

And, by the way, I still can't get on to vote, or receive "confirmation e-mails, despite having received the response from 
openagriculture@gsa.gov <openagriculture@gsa.gov> saying:

Justin, 

We have verified your email and you should be able to vote and post ideas and comments on http://opendoj.ideascale.com. Thanks. 

Gong, Admin

Eleanor White has also just started a strong new DOJ Poll. 

http://opendoj.ideascale.com/a/dtd/28595-7036

- Justin. 

     PLEASE CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR PATRICIA'S POLL FOR DOJ ACTION ON GANG STALKING:

DOJ: Enforcing Existing Laws ~
http://ideascale.com/t/UB3VZFzo 


THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many of you experience being harrassed and stalked by FedEx,UPS and previously DHL trucks(before DHL went out of business).These companys drivers use there company vehicles to repeatedly intersect a TI at intersections and simple show up in unusually high numbers and/or freqency at locations a TI goes to and from (appointments,stores,restaurants ect.)This would happen at an unusually high rate that can not be mistaken as coincidents.View this video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQN6XYIKqZ4

     This is part of a "sensitizing" process based on psychologically anchoring these things so you will eventually be unable to distinguish between natural occurring incidents with the delivery trucks and staged incidents where they are part of OS.
     You and thousands others are being observed and psychologically evaluated before to see what you react to (this is like focus group stuff). 
  

  PLEASE CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR PATRICIA'S POLL FOR DOJ ACTION ON GANG STALKING:

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THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Read Vic Livingston's articles at www.nowpublic.com/scrivener as well as his readers' comments to find out the perimeters of this Torture and Control Matrix.
These federally funded vigilante-stalkers have access to microwave "nonlethal" (yeah, right) weapons, which can be mounted in their SUVs. They aim these weapons at selected victims at night in the early hours of the morning, while their victims are sleeping. They are testing slow murder weapons (for use against poiticians, generals, and bureaucrats who they can't subvert?) The US is in the grip of a police tyranny run by our so-called defense agencies. The US has been hijacked at the top and the blind, moronic little foot soldiers carry out the orders of their corrupt chain of command.

I have been gang-stalked for just under 25 years.  I have moved three times to three different states. It never stops.  Oddly, after all the seeking I have done, I have only recently learned what "gang stalking" is and, especially, "imprinting."  If this word, imprinting, had never been supplied for me, I would have thought I was going crazy; thus, I would never tell anybody what I was experiencing.  Who would believe me?  But I have learned so very much.  Most importantly, that America is dead and nobody cares. 

I was young then, trying to become a police officer (a good one), when I was "met" by a young sicilian pre-law student in NY.  During a "grooming" period of several weeks, which consisted of him making numerous phone calls and visits to me at my place of work, he impressed me with his custom made Italian suits, a fully loaded Cadillac, and he bragged of his liaisons with government officials, including the sheriff.  He told me he could get me in to the Sheriff's Dept. because he knew the sheriff and that they did business together --- Boy, was I excited.  I thought he was really important.  

On our second of two dates, (the first date establishing him as friends with sheriff's deputies at a local yuppie scene), I had not reason to believe he was a criminal.  After all, he was friends with police officers, whose motto is: Serve, Protect Guide!  On that second date, he took me to a very expensive restaurant.  We were out very late.  He told me he had to "do some business" with a friend.  He then drove me to the red light district of that city, to a seedy dump of a bar, told me to wait at the bar, and then disappeared into a back room with the owner.  He then came out with his friend and announced that he would be driving him home before taking me home.  We drove through the worst part of town, dropped his friend off, and then he took me to a parking lot of an abandoned building where there was very many cars there making "deals."  He said that he was in organized crime and that he could kill me if I talked.  

I went to the police about it.  They shut me up.  I went to the FBI.  The agent was a former cop in that city.  He shut me up.  My life went to Sh!t.  If you are experiencing gangstalking, you already know the rest.  

ADDENDUM to Feb 28, 2010 at 4:42 p.m.  

BTW, that pre-law student is now a practicing criminal defense attorney in that city.  

When he was discharged from the Army, Timothy McVeigh told friends that he was called upon in the service to secretly bring illicit drugs into the USA. He further said that he and others were enlisted to "Keep people quiet who found out."  People laughed at Tim.  I was one of those people they shut up.  

  PLEASE CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR PATRICIA'S POLL FOR DOJ ACTION ON GANG STALKING:

DOJ: Enforcing Existing Laws ~
http://ideascale.com/t/UB3VZFzo 


THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS ANYONE STILL POSTING ON THIS SITE,HAVEN,T SEEN ANYTHING IN AWHILE.

PLEASE CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR PATRICIA'S POLL FOR DOJ ACTION ON GANG STALKING:

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THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS SIGHT HAS SEEMINGLY GONE TO SLEEP?

     ANY PROBLEMS VOTING OR COMMENTING ON:

DOJ: Enforcing Existing Laws ~
http://ideascale.com/t/UB3VZFzo 

PLEASE LEAVE A COMMENT ON THIS POLL THAT DOJ POLL OR ANY OF MEMBER PEACEFROG'S ARTICLES  @NOWPUBLIC.COM. OTHERWISE, KEEP VOTING FOR DOJ ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING LAWS AGAINST GANG STALKING:

DOJ: Enforcing Existing Laws ~
http://ideascale.com/t/UB3VZFzo 

Don't moderators generally come back and answer questions about why they lock out polls?
I've left comments now on the enforce existing laws poll, unanswered for weeks, asking that they clarify why the continue to exclude that poll. Why does the moderator (s) not provide some clarification? 

- Justin. 

     It is my under standing that ideas with votes over "50" will be reviewed. The moderator is not responding to the requests for clarification. There are only 1 0r 2  other ideas out of 55 that have a vote over 50.

PLEASE CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR PATRICIA'S POLL FOR DOJ ACTION ON GANG STALKING:

DOJ: Enforcing Existing Laws ~
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THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been stalked for several years due to a sibling of mine being accused of snitching on a nephew of a high profile law enforcement agent.Thugs were sent to my home and I recognized one of them from attempting to rob my home prior.This is definitely the work of law enforcement using surveillance and rewarding stalkers,which are often relatives,with good jobs.It gives the relative of law enforcement a second chance at straightening out there life while destroying another mans life.Watch out for Victory Outreach Church.They are the ones that go to the prisons and create the deals.Good luck to all of you. 

PLEASE CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR PATRICIA'S POLL FOR DOJ ACTION ON GANG STALKING:

DOJ: Enforcing Existing Laws ~
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THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been a gang-stalking victim for at least 12 years or more. First, I did not know such a thing called gang-stalking even exist. I just have plenty of bad lucks......I am a Chinese Canadian woman and my husband is white. We are both educated, civil, law-abiding, friendly and low-profailed, so it is so very hard to believed people like us can be so hated by certain evil groups.....My husband is an engineer and I am an artist, we have lived a very decent, very quiet life so far, why would anyone want to hurt us? So hard to believe! But yet, we were NOTICEBLY followed, bullied everywhere we go, even the local police officiers bullye and harrass me-a very gentle, mild-manner Asian woman-in public, and threathen to arrest me for "Screaming at them"!

If gang-stalking is organized by goverment agencies, if this is an "Open secret", if there are so many people involved, why no one talk? Why there are no honest people who has a bit sense of justice, has tried to stop such a satanic crime against totally innocent people like us?!

     There are many reasons why people get targeted and put on a stalking list. From the few facts you are asserting, it is possible that an interracial couple could be the reason or a reason. People assume that when large numbers of people are involved someone will have to talk. However, during times of government sanctioned oppression, such as McCarthyism in America, very few did publicly. Also consider the Manhattan Project that built the first nuclear bomb. Over ten thousand people were involved and not one spoke.
     Your point on satanic crime is interesting. Gina Romano is a target and has an internet show on gang stalking. She believes that there is a nexus between a growth in satanic covens, etc., and worldwide gang stalking. Missouri house representative Jim Guest spoke on her show about gang stalking and that is still available on the internet. Satanists in England attempted to rally behind Germany during the Second World War. You probably read my "Open Secret" article. Another concept you might be interested in is mission creep, do a Wikipedia search. Law Enforcement's role in this was probably originally much less ambitious and at some point it became a disaster. You should vote in the DOJ enforcement poll:
http://ideascale.com/t/UB3VZFzo 

  PLEASE CONTINUE TO VOTE FOR PATRICIA'S POLL FOR DOJ ACTION ON GANG STALKING:

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THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that the the voting deadline was March 19.

NowPublic has selectively taken down my articles that have linked to government documents. This is the type of censorship we complain about from the Chinese and Iranins. This country is fascist. NowPublic should be boycotted.

Censorship and fascism.  What a country this has become.  (It certainly has always had its problems, but where we're headed can't be good.)

     There is an old saying that censorship will exist whenever there is a Reader, a Writer and a Ruler. Liberty has to be fought for. My Nowpublic account seems to been cleared as of today. I know that there is a lot of activity directed at exposing OS. In the end, our efforts will prevail.

     Someone asked who flagged my account at Nowpublic. Since I can't say it there because I can't even anonymously post to my own story (my IP is flagged), it was: TINA KELLS

What makes me suspicious of the posters on this page is that there is no way to contact them. Real victims of organized stalking desire to network with other victims. It makes me feel that the perpetrators create these sites to gather information on victims. A real victim knows whether or not, the victim introduced to them is real or not.
So, here is my email: jkeeney9267@spamarrest.com

jkeeney:
     There are real victims who network. Right now I am working with another ti on lobbying and FOIA related to gang stalking. There are also disinformation sites. However, real victims can use their gut to reach out to other real victims. This site is real. The bell-shaped curve resulting from the voting has been consistent for the life of the poll indicating a reliable pattern of responses.

jkeeney,

I'm another "real victim" -- we have to stick together.  Good people  have to work together to expose and stop OS.

Organized Stalking is very real. Read my story on the READ FIRST link at the top left of my blog.



http://groupstalkingbyindians.blogspot.com/

I am a serious gang stalking target yet I click on endless "peace frog" and nothing, no contact, no email. Also, I am skeptical of you because not only can I not get any email for you yet you are typical of a perpatrator because you go on and on about a story and give examples like "I talked to Coleen"  and then I talked to "so and so" and we are to believe this. All you have done is tell a story with names and that means nothing.  i think you are one of them 

     I do not give out my contact information for the same reason most other bloggers and people leaving comments don't. The story you're referring to about NCVC contains their address and phone number so it does not take a rocket scientist to call them and make his or her own opinion about the claims in that article. Accusing me of being a perp is the same as me accusing you for leaving an unfriendly comment. My stories on Nowpublic and this poll are honest. My understanding is that perps have the motivation to split the efforts of people trying to expose gang stalking. Your comment seems like a perp-stly smear.

I have been near suicide several times because of this. Only my strong Christian beliefs keep me from it.  How can these people sleep at night?  What concerns me most is that there are people in my own family that are a part of destroying innocent peoples lives, and they call themselves Christians!  If they could only see themselves from our eyes.  Its really easy to get all caught up, or as the bible says (puffed up in your own eyes) and think that you are above, or better than the people your are stalking.  When you put yourselves on a pedestal, its really easy to allow yourself to become a predator, instead of compassionate, loving human beings, that Christ commands us to be. My parents taught me that most rumors were lies, and when the spreader of the lies insist on the rumors being ONLY TRUTH,  then they will be held accountable by God. By the way, the bible calls Satan, the greatest spreader of lies.   Read 1 Corinthians 13,  then if you can make yourself believe that you are a "good citizen" and above reproach, because you are so much better than everyone else, then I would hate to be you. Only really insecure people would allow a group mentality to control their hate for other people. Since when in America, do you think you have the right to be judge and jury of people because they disagree with you on something? Or in a vigilante fashion you believe that your groups have God given rights the rest of us don't have!   Feel free to believe all the lies others have made up about me,  What doesn't kill me only makes me stronger.  I am begging you,  please pray to God about what you are doing.  You are not being a patriot, or good citizen, or someone who thinks they are so important because you were chosen above others to be a stalker.  Then listen for Gods answer.  He wants us to strive to be like Jesus.  He doesn't want you to strive to be like Hilter, Using his conintelpro tactics.  Its nothing to be proud of.  Forgive me for being angry.  Maybe if you had to put up with this for 10 years you would be angry too. And while I'm at it, do you really think that these same people don't watch you, waiting for a reason to turn the tables on you and your family?  Good luck with that.  It only takes one lie.

Thank you for sharing your poignant story. I am also a long-term victim of the stalking. It is good to find inner strength in your religious beliefs. I am happy to see you have made the connection to cointelpro-style tactics, as others have. The only other time in recent American history in which people have felt their beliefs justified their taking the role of judge and jury was McCarthyism. Cointelpro was rampant during that era. 

 "Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice.

The above quote is from a speech by Martin Luther King, Jr.

Blog-Nazi Tina Kells has closed the comments threads on Scrivener's blog on nowpublic; evidently he was exposing too much truth about the US Hidden Domestic Terror Network and the Gov Perps had her shut him down.

I also have been gangstalked for over 9 years now.  

I added the above comment about 9 yrs of gangstalking. I'm also being mobbed at work, has gotten unbearable as of late.  You see my husband has been diagnosed with acute myelocytic leukemia.  The only income we have is from my job.  They know this.  Of course, want to run me out and put me under as much stress as they can. The anxiety and depression is becoming unbearable. 

I believe you should contact your local house rep. with the details of your story (you can find this person @house.gov using your zip code). Personal stories of family hardship are moving and may cause a rep. or staffer to look into your cliams. I have spoken to several congressional staffers who admitted knowledge of organized stalking claims. Remember, rep. Jim Guest was debriefed by the FBI shortly after meeting with organized stalking victims. He has been one of the few people in Washington who has spoken about the problem publicly. Having been ex-military Guest has to be aware of the magnitude of the problem. His comments on Gina Romano's show are available on youtube.Given his age he can probably make the connection between this and cointelpro and , more specifically McCarthyism.

thease mfr's never quit sucks when you live w/em 

I am willing to start an email support group...Is that ok peacefrog?  I would like to know before I give my generic email out.

Its great to have resources like an e-mail support group, go for it!

Just as a reminder, some people are connecting through yahoo support groups and there is at least one regular conference call, so anyone wanting to chat can check out ffchs.org. There is a divide between some ti's having EM issues and others-like myself- experiencing community-based harassment. However, all these forums present an opportunity to meet interesting people with similar problems. The more forums the better.

 I'd like to join a support group for this, any ideas for me? I  can't seem to get emails from here, it's blocked, my email is thewhimacles@aol.com. I wonder how many people are involved in these gang stalking communities...I've started to spread the word, yet some I've spoken to are those who are stalking me too. All of this is too bizarre. Can someone get back to me at my email address..it's private, (I think)

I am also looking for a support group.  I am not giving my email out for obvious reasons. I thought about it and just can't give it out.  I am a christian, and have just read some really good scriptures that actually pertain to what these criminals are doing.  I would be glad to post some of them if you want. I will just post where to find them, you will have to look them up for yourself.  Please know that there are thousands of us praying for us all,  and for whatever reason we are being preyed on this way,  know that God also knows, and he knows who the real criminals are.  Just because a stalker thinks he has his groups permission to be a criminal,  doesn't mean he has Gods blessing on it.  I would hate to face my God knowing what I had done against his other children.  I ask forgiveness from God for all my sins continually,  I wonder how many of them even think they need his forgiveness?  I guess its to much for their egos, they just get so excited thinking about how important they are in the scheme of things.  Thats why this works so well.  Its easy to get friends and familys of a TI to turn against them,  all they have to do is stroke their egos about how great they are,  good citizens and all, and they puff right up and suddenly have a mob mentality, not even questioning that they are only being told lies and maybe partial truths. God help them all!

It is a great thing to find help by adhering to your faith in a harsh situation. Others may find help in various activities and in secular beliefs. It is hard to recommend a support group because these groups tend to be different and many members have issues that are distinct from organized stalking (for instance, many claim to be victims of human experimentation, DEW's, etc.). Yahoo has several e-mail support groups., ffchs.org  offers a weekly conference call in which ti's from across this country and Canada communicate. You might want to consider creating an alternate/ temporary e-mail address at aol, yahoo, etc., for the purpose of communicating with others. 

The website you keep giving, ffchs.org  is a school and has nothing to do with this.  at leaste that is what pulls up on my pc.

I'm sorry the correct site that has a weekly conference call is:

http://freedomfchs.com/

check out this new poll on zoho...   Citizen Stalkers and harrassers, 

peacefrog, I saw your comment on slapping the stalkers,  I just want everyone to know,  DO NOT DO THAT!!!  NEVER EVER TOUCH ANOTHER HUMAN BEING UNLESS THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL YOU!  that is the worst advise every given!  It does make you look like one of the stalkers.  You know  better than that,  The stalkers want you to do something like that, and then all their little witnesses will come out of the woodwork, swearing that you tried to kill that person, and off to prison you go.   I could tell by that comment that you are not really a victim.  A real victim would know better.   I am praying for you, that as this all comes to light, that the real criminals be revealed.  I will not be posting to this site again. Thank God for the discernment he has given me..

Dear "guest":

     Many victims are having their lives threatened. I spoke with several that attempted suicide and know of more who achieved it. I spoke with a college girl who is on court-ordered supervision after attempting suicide after years of this shit. I've spoken to internally displaced Americans who are refugees in their own country. As Malcolm X said sometimes violence is intelligence. Keep praying if it works for you. By the way, I gave a lot of other nonviolent advice besides slapping the scumbags performing these activities.

Dear "peacefrog"
These people don't threaten lives,  they make people miserable until they take their own lives.  Violence is Never intellegence.  My prayers are answered,  I don't have to do anything, I just sit back and watch as these people, (especially the ones who claim to be Christians and good citizens,) self destruct,  You can not serve two Gods. You can't believe that violence is the answer, or even writing letters to congress. Violence begets violence, and writing letters to congress and the fbi, puts you on "special lists"  Christian or not, You are responsible for you actions.  Instead of following the advise of Malcom X, perhaps you should follow Christ.  Obviously you can't follow Christ and also push people towards suicide, or towards being arrested for crimes of assault.  I am praying for you because I believe that you truly believe you are doing Gods work. 
And I only have commpassion for you.  I  have commpassion for all the stalkers, because they are caught up in something way over their heads, and they don't understand the consequences they will ultimately pay to God for their actions.  I want everyone saved.  Not just the victims of this. You see, when you have the holy spirit in you,  you can only love people,  not hate them.  I can't hate you anymore than I could hate my mother.  You know in your heart, that Christ would never treat any of us this way. I am praying that you find your way.  And I hope anyone reading this who is being stalked will find hope and love in this post.  maybe I will continue to post.  I think there are a lot of people here who need Gods love in their lives.  
"His therefore also yours"  
In Christ
Alice

PS:    The arc of the moral universe is bending towards justice, I am watching it happen as we speak.

Alice:

I respect Christ as one of the greatest moral authorities. But I see people on the edge, someone of  them may vent that rage inward and kill themselves. A few may kill innocent people. This system is a lot bigger than the street punks doing the gang stalking. I suggest everyone seek legal means to end this problem, the same means used to end Jim Crowe and Apartheid. However, another great moral authority was Gandhi. He said the Jews should have accepted their fate in Germany rather than shed blood. I have to disagree. Remember, Hitler came to power in 1932. Most of his domestic victims were not killed until ten years after. Although every means should be considered before the smallest act of violence is committed, better to see the blood of the wicked run than that of ordinary folks who do not deserve it. I hope the government takes action and legitimizes itself. Perhaps, some of these creeps need purgatory to repent in the Federal Bureau of Prisons. In the end anyone can be forgiven, but, there is the issue of Crime and Punishment.

P.S. I am doing the right thing and if I am on any list, including preventative detention, then the government can shove that list up their ass!

Keith

Here is a scripture for the moral authority:
Romans 3:5  5But if our unrighteousness brings out God

you can block it,  but people can still look it up...

peacefrog, 
I want you to know that I am not condeming what you are doing if you are really trying to help people....I know what its like to have your life ruined,  I am stalked because I chose to go against a major corporation.   I did nothing illegal,  So much to the story there is not time to tell it.  Now they spread lies about me.  I have severe health problems, and just try to make it day to day, while they spread lies that I am just bilking the system for money because I am to lazy to work.  Anyone hearing the lies should know that it doesn't work that way.  In order to be on disability, not only do your drs have to have physical proof of what is wrong with you,  you also have to go the the social security drs, and they also have to have the proof, and I mean lots of it.  Its not possible to lie.  I have steel rods and 6, 2 inch screws in my back.  They have even lied and told people I am not telling the truth about that. I just try to love them anyway and live my life the best I can under the circumstances.  I understand your anger if this is happening to you too.  My problem is, I know the people in a small community in KS that are doing it.  I can name names.  But I won't,  You do what you think is right. And I sincerely hope it helps.  Because no one deserves to be driven to suicide.  Just try to let them know that many victims are in prison now because they lost their tempers and did bad things.   I was suspicious of your motives because of something I can't repeat on here.   Good luck and God Bless
Alice
Alice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4VTL8xrPWY

check this out,  and tell me how anyone deserves this kind of behavior.  This is the kind of issue that should be about crime and punishment.  Thank God it was done in a court of law and not by defamed people who think they have the God given right to do this.

Another thought for Christians,  If this is all really about crime and punishment then why didn't God send gang stalkers after Paul in the Bible?  He crusified many christians,  by your standards,  he should have also been crusified.  This is why I don't go after stalkers with a vengence,  it would make me no better than them.  You can't write into the Bible what you think God should do or think.  And what about the Roman soldiers that crusified Christ.  Maybe forgiveness wasn't enough for them either,  maybe they should have been made to pay, but gangstalkers for what they did to Christ.    Sure I have sinned in my life, and I know God has forgiven me.  If you think you are so good that you can make it go on past Gods forgiveness,  then maybe we need to be able to view your lives, or your kids lives.  See what sins you have commited, and should have to pay for.  

preventative detention,  thats something I had never heard of.

Look up Japanese internment in U.S. during WW11.

why would preventative detention happen to americans?  I thought we learned not to do that after WW11

After ww2 during the MCcarthy era there were lists of suspected communists. The FBI currently has a terrorist watchlist. The current list will be a round up and detention for different categories of subversives, as determined by the government.  You should read up on FEMA camps and watch some Youtube videos because something like what almost happened in Times Square could enact an emergency military government. The Patriot act and other laws have been passed with an eye toward enabling this.

I went to google maps and typed in fema camps, and to my surprise it pulled up 7 of them...one is in Kansas,  hmmmmmmmmm.. I guess anything is possible.  Anyone who thinks it couldn't happen in Kansas should read about the mennonites in the Whitewater, Potwin area in KS and how they were tarred and feathered by good american citizens for not wanting to buy war bonds.  Seriously, who would burn a persons home and possesions, because of different beliefs?  The government did nothing to protect these people and in fact encouraged the attacks according to some accounts.  Now some of those same people from the mennonite churches in the area work for this same government, as group stalkers.  hmmmmmm
interesting how fast people forget how it feels to be on the wrong end of injustices.

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You see the owner of this site won't let this be posted!  what does that tell you?

Matthew 7:2
Matthew 7:2-8 (New International Version)
2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 

 3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. 

 6"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.

I wish the community stalkers could understand that they are also targets...they just don't know it.  The government wants control of the people,  and who is under the most control?  the community stalkers?  of the targetted Individuals?   They take their morals and compassion for others, (everything that God says is sacred for us) and just throw it out there to the pigs.

Thanks for the comment. "Control" is the major focus in totalitarian police models like the former USSR and East Germany. Gary T. Marx is a professor who wrote a book about modern American policing becoming more of an art of social engineering and control. The book is called "Under Cover". His work is cited in Professor Alexandra Natapoff's "Snitches" which was published last year.

This won't stop until all the people in the country recognize, that the only loyalty in this country is loyalty the government wants you to have for them,  there is no loyalty from the government for the people.  Take a look at everything that has passed in congress in the last 6 months.

Just a note,  as someone looking in.......this doesn't appear to be about crime and punishment, it appears to be about revenge and getting even.  sort of a mob mentality, you know supposedly  our country stood apart from others.  Because we value life, we value others, knowing that no one is perfect.  I don't know when this changed and became about numerous people loving that they are on a pedestal and everyone else are just low lifes or no lifes, that don't deserve to breath the same air as they do.  these people are no better than muslim extemeist terrorists. What has happend to our beautiful wonderful country? It makes me sad.

Fortunately, the 30 year prison sentence under 18 U.S.C. 2331 and Patriot Act Section 802 make domestic terrorism no different than muslim extremist  terrorism. 

Yes, but it would appear that the targets are the ones who are considered the extremist, not the stalkers.  So who really wins?

The targets are ordinary people, read the comments. The fed will bury whatever stalkers are not useful to them. Did you cut a deal and inform?

I tried to answer you peacefrog, and the comment would not go through.  Are you sensoring the messages?

ok now,  3rd time the comment wouldn't go through.....so see ...either I am really be harrassed electronically or you are really afraid of what I am going to say publicly!

Peacefrog, here are the reason I can't and won't ever be an OS!
Secret societies are in conflict with the teachings of Holy Scripture. A Christian must never affiliate with any organization that 1) yokes together believers with unbelievers in unholy alliances (2 Cor. 6:14-18); 2) requires a pledge to unscriptural oaths which are sealed by using the name of God improperly or in vain (Ex. 20:7, Lev. 5:4-6, Matt. 5:34-37, James 5:12); 3) represents itself as providing teaching in harmony with the Bible when in fact it does not (2 Peter 3:16); 4) represents itself as being religious and offers a false hope of salvation through works, yet dishonors the only true God and our Savior the Lord Jesus Christ (John 17:3, 1 Tim. 2:3-6, Col. 2:8-10, Eph. 2:8,9).

The Christian should "be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody" (Rom. 12:17). Secretively meeting behind closed doors in a "lodge" where activities are carried on behind a cloak of secrecy, in favor of fellow members, usually for economic, social, or political advantage hardly describes doing what is right in the eyes of everybody. "Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord" (2 Cor. 6:17). This is God

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The activities of secret orders demand time and energy that divert the servant of the Lord from efforts to fulfill the Great Commission. 
The binding loyalty to fellow members of the secret society

Hmmm it just won't come through....

The activities of secret orders demand time and energy that divert the servant of the Lord from efforts to fulfill the Great Commission. 
The binding loyalty to fellow members of the secret society

This is God

The activities of secret orders demand time and energy that divert the servant of the Lord from efforts to fulfill the Great Commission. 
The binding loyalty to fellow members of the secret society

The spirit, philosophy, and general influence of secret orders channel activities toward improving only the natural part of humankind instead of changing the heart of the spiritual being. 
Commitment to secret orders and their teachings leads one to a wrong emphasis on salvation through good works and improving society. 

This is God

This is God

well I'll say one thing for you......you know how to block whats you don't want read!

There are churches who wouldn't allow these os to even take communion if they knew what they belong to and how they act.

This whole thing is controlled by powerful governments and people.  Only God himself can do anything about it.
 4th US President James Madison
"Some of the biggest men in the United States in the field of commerce and manufacture are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it..." - Woodrow Wilson

This is not my personal website so any problems posting are with the host zoho.com. I can't control that. Anyone wanting to contact me can e-mail stopgs@yahoo.com. I check it once a week or so. I do not give out my primary e-mail address until after my first communication-this is understandable to anyone in this situation.

The above quote by Wilson is a good one. Many people speculate that Kennedy was going to give a speech revealing Operation Northwoods and other clandestine over-reaching about the time he was assassinated. He did cross the entire intelligence community by putting a stop to Operation Northwoods, a project few Americans are familiar with.

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death". - Adolph Hitler

I wonder why all of a sudden there are laws against home grown terrorists in the usa?  Could it be that the government actually fears that this terrorist group of organized stalkers (the monster they created) might someday be so powerful, that even they can't stop them?  Its kind of like the mafia, paying money to an outsider to assasinate someone for them, and then sending their own guys out to kill the assainater. I am simply speculating.  Perhaps this was already in place when Kennedy was killed..  who knows?  and who would imagine that someone in their own families could knowingly or unknowingly be so stupid as to become involved in something so evil.

Being a victim of OS is  a hard way to learn that life is unfair. And if you want to feel the power associated with bullying, be prepared to enjoy the prison time that comes along with it. Crimes are crimes and driving a person to death by relentless threats and harassment is nothing to be proud of. And eventually you will get caught.  And if you don't phisically get caught,  you will still be held responsible for their deaths in Gods court of judgement.  How do you sleep at night?  And do you understand that someday someone will probably make one of your children or grandchildren victims too?    Your condemnation is deserved.

These groups are composed of chiefly low level petty, recidivist criminals that are a joke to the feds. They actually represent a threat to organized crime and political corruption, of which they operate on the fringes. If the feds were not so good at handling informants and keeping a lid on federal operations, these stalkers would end up in dumpsters.

I believe that the os's put out so much negative energy, that this is why so much comes back on them.  I see it all the time with people I am aware are stalkers. Bad things do happen to them. Its the golden rule coming back on them.    I pray for them, for God to allow his love to flow over them, because they are so wrapped up in their egos and what they are doing, that this is basically all they think of, all day long, and at family meetings, or group meetings, all their time is wrapped up in how to make others miserable.  I do feel sorry for them. 

There have been studies done showing corrections officers, military interrogators, and other similar professions have markedly high rates of suicide, depression, lower life spans, etc. It is obvious that sadistic behavior has inevitable negative consequences for the sadists. We have to still try to stop the madness and punish the wicked. 
     I have read that there is a saying in prison amongst inmates that "everyone is in prison"-this refers to the jailers too. In the 1970's film Dinner with Andre- the main character stated that soon we would all be creating prisons without walls, essentially surrendering ourselves as a community to this form of slavery. The actor, who was well known at the time, left the US because he felt it was becoming a fascist country. He certainly was on to something.

Reasons scripturally you shouldn't mistreat other christians,  or other potential christians,

1 Corinthians 12:14-23 
Now the body is not made up of one part but of many. If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? But in fact God has arranged the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. If they were all one part, where would the body be? As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 

The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!" On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. (NIV) 

1 Corinthians 12:27 
Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. (NIV) 

Unity in the body of Christ does not mean total conformity and uniformity. Although maintaining unity in the body is very important, it is also vital to value the unique qualities that make each of us an individual "part" of the body. Both aspects, unity and individuality, deserve emphasis and appreciation. This makes for a healthy church body, when we remember that Christ is our common denominator. He makes us one.

We are all responsible for christians that leave the church due to organized stalking, or any kind of mistreatment.   Especially if they feel they can never attend a church again!  Shame on them! 

To the individual who has some facility with the scriptures:
Could Christians who yield to authorities and do what is not Christian rely on Matthew 22:21
"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."
This is important because historically there has been a struggle between faith based principles and religious belief. In many instances, faith-based practice has yielded to secular law.

I am trying to leave you a reply peacefrog, but someone is interfering with the posts.  will try again later.

again I am sorry won't go through.........

I have tried 3 times now,  why it will let these little short ones through, and not the paragraphs,  who knows?  I think its someone monitoring my pc, they don't want this to come through. 

http://www.badexperiment.com/gang-stalking-and-christians/#comment-19519

great site for christians being targeted!

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1867735,00.html

wow! great stuff!

Commenter had a hard time leaving me a reply post. I'm also available at stopgs@yahoo.com. It's an alternate email I only use for OS contacts, I check it weekly.

i can't contact you by email,  its too easy to track ip addresses.

still won't let me, so I will try again soon,  but if they keep this up, i will just have to leave the site. sorry....

ok well i guess it can't be said on here.  sorry......
God bless

Do any other TI's notice cars/trucks with New York license plates beginning with ERB? I do not think its a coincidence, I think stalking vehicles are being assigned certain numbers by DMV so they can be easily identified.

I have been victimized by gang stalking, initially I did not realize that there are groups of sick individuals whose tactics including ghosting, brighting, anchoring, sensitization, electronic survailance, etc., are so planned and methodical that their mission is to destroy an individual's mind.  They are very organized and connected within governmental agencies yet so very cowardly, they use their power for such evil when it should be used for the greater good.  I guess in their sick mind they believe the punishment they bestow on individuals is their way of justice.  I think the key to help deflect is not allowing the mind to become controlled, easier said than done, but if you give the group power of your mind, they have succeeded in their plan.  If you dont have a spirtual base, you might wanna find one.

     These tactics are third world style, former Soviet Block tactics. The government is experimenting social control mechanisms on its own citizens. These groups are actually being manipulated and there is a large overlap between these groups and the informant snitches the police use at every level of government. The government's actions in this are genocidal and completely depraved. Suggested reading:

Alexandra Natapoff, "Snitches"

Gary T. Marx, "Under Cover"

I have been gang stalked by a private investigators employees for 2 years. location finger lakes ny. The owner of the private investigator business is also a  police officer.

I have heard a nearly identical story from a former employee of a Staten Island based private security firm owned by two NYPD detectives. If you want to communicate post an e-mail address. For privacy reasons you may want to create a temporary e-mail at yahoo, etc.

re:  June 29, 2010 comment 

You say that you are in the finger lakes area.  I am, too.  I know of several other people in this region who are also being gang stalked.  If you get in touch with peacefrog, he can get in touch with me.  The person who, in all likelihood, set this in motion in my life has ties to private investigators and law enforcementl.  I'm grasping at straws here, as we all are.  Please get in touch with peacefrog.

I have been Gang Stalked any where I went since 4/09 where is started in Nashua, NH where I ad lived since 1986 by 11/09  Electronic torture was added. The stalking also involved postal workers and public workers.  I was unable to live in my home due to intense electronic torture the week before Thanksgiving and moved out to stay in hotels where I was hit with electronic torture in hotels in Salem, NH and Chelmsford, MA.  Prior to changing my room I would enter the parking lot and each time find a darkened window with like a dozen police stickers on the front and back of the vehicle and out of state plate. RI and MO.  After changing the room I would go back out into the parking lot and the vehicle would be gone as well as the electronic harassment.  I believe the police in Nashua and postal workers were complicit in this as when I would report the vandalism to my vehicles the complaint would be taken on a 1/2 inch square of paper. I was forced to move to Rancho Bernardo, CA where both the gang stalking and the electronic harassment has occurred here everyday. I have had to have a lesion froze off my head and burn marks on my foot.  I had paid off the mortgage on my home in NH and now I have it up for sale.  It is my belief that the thousands of people reporting gang stalking across the United States is a direct result of out Government hiring the Stasi Spy Chief of East Germany as a consultant to learn how to implement an informant, stalking network in the USA.  His name was Marcus Wolf - the USA hired him in 2004 and he died in 2006 and went to hell most likely if you can imagine the peoples lives he tormented and ruined in East Germany.  It would not surprise me in the least if this whole gang stalking/electronic harassment program is "mission creep" being perpetrated by Homeland Security due either running out of legitimate terrorists or being too incompetent to find them.  I did not take 11 trips to Pakistan for any training.  Actually I have taken no trips ever to any Muslim nation.  Also, don't let  law enforcment tell you that you need to see a psychologist if you go in to report electronic harassment.  They know all about directed energy weapons - they call them DEW and the entire military is using them and if you go on any defense supplier's website you can read all about the DE weapons programs.  As well, MI and ME already made laws against them.

I am in the fingerlakes . I will get in touch with peace frog. these p.i.'s seem to operate out of Ontario county. They ar men and woman , old and young. they violate laws and rights to privacy.

Dear guest from finger lakes






























Dear guest from finger lakes:

     You can get in touch with me by posting an email address on this comment thread. For privacy reasons, you should create a new email for free at aol, yahoo, hotmail, etc., for communicating. 
     I have an alternate email address at stopgs@yahoo.com. You can reach me there, but I only check it once a week or so.

Peacefrog

I will look into creating an email address. The one I currently use has my name in it. The employees of the cop in the fingerlakes use high tech. cameras  and listening devices. They will come in restaurants if your in their and announce to whom ever they are with , that they are watching you. 

Again, I'm reachable at stopgs@yahoo.com

guest frpm the fingerlakes:  you are further north than I am, but these creeps are everywhere, it seems.  and yes, they are old and young, male and female and think nothing of breaking the law.  they vandalize property and steal from their targets, as you know.  this is evil the likes of which I have never known.   please contact peacefrog.  the things that you are reporting comport with what I've seen and experienced.

Those of us who have been stalked as I have understand the toll that it takes on a person. I left the country with my son and traveled to New Zealand in an attempt to avoid my ex husband Mike Gamble from stalking or shall I say having my son and I stalked. It continues even now over 10 years later. I suggest that a petition be put together with the names of all of us who are considered victims of the egregious crime. I suggest that we insist that the crime be brought to light and stopped by our legislaltors and all who consider stalking no different than a terrorist attack.  The weaponry used and the methods are the same. It is a cowardly attack on people. It is much like being shot in the back in a feeble attempt to victimize and control. I pray that all of us will become organized and attack  not in the shadows but bring it all to light. Don't think of suicide or quitting think of becoming victorious in a battle to expose crime and terrorists who seek to not only destroy us but the freedom and guarantee of the pursuit of happiness that our country should and will provide when this type of crime is fully exposed and stopped.

These perps know that (in my case)they are commiting "SSS KILL"(soft slow silent kill as the cia calls it)."If you kill someone slow enough,no one notices".This is murder folks.In self defence,neccesary force is permissible.I first contact the "authorities"

peacefrog I have noit contacted you yet . I will. I have recently seen aMennonite woman who drives vehicles working for the private investigators in the finger lake. She lives in yates county. I have also recognized her son. I have had personal experience with this family and they lack in ethics and morals. 

Guest on July 15 If you are in the southern tier of new york state this group also works in that area.  The owner of this group is a cop named Storer.

Response to Aug 4th comment:
Thanks for the information (I'm the person from the southern tier).  I'll set up an account, post the address here and you could contact me directly.

Person from southerntier .sounds good.

Nobody has voted in almost 2 weeks. If there is a problem voting then please try to post a comment.

anonnr@yahoo.com  (from the st)  sorry for the delay

My family and I have been harrased and stalked for well over 10 years. As a result of the set ups my neice and my nphew both have criminal records and I am up curently for trial for a staged incident. One woman who had nothing to do with it got killed in a staged car accident and my sister lost her life just two years ago from a brain haemorrhage. My neohew has been stabbed twice and I have had 4 threats by people I don't know who say they should stab me. 

     Given the extent to which targeted persons and families have had their privacy disappear, it is understandable that anonymous posts are common. Nevertheless, try to include a country, state, town, etc., because there are other victims who need to know they are not suffering alone in their communities, and, it is important to be aware of demographic trends in the crime of organized stalking.

I apologize for the bad spelling in the previous comment so I thought I would elaborate.
My family and I have been harassed and stalked for well over 10 years. For me it goes back into my childhood. I know of another who was also targeted and he died of a drug overdose a few years ago. As a result of the set ups my niece and my nephew both have criminal records and I am up currently for trial for a staged incident. One woman who had nothing to do with it got killed in a staged car accident. 
My nephew has been stabbed twice and I have had 4 threats by people I don't know who say they should stab me. The second time my nephew was stabbed he got stabbed 8 times, one wound on the side of the neck. My nephew

My nephew

     I also am a "generational victim" due to the perceived political and social beliefs of my family, dating back several generations. This is not uncommon.
     Having spent years analyzing organized stalking, I have come to some conclusions. Firstly, this is a Washington driven, FBI led and funded COINTELPRO that may, in many ways, be larger in scope and more destructive than McCarthyism and the Red Scare (both spearheaded by the FBI).
     Counterintuitively, traditional organized crime, in my belief, is limiting the extent to which these stalking groups are engaging in crime in areas in which they overlap. Organized crime, the police and the feds are all aware of these groups. So are violent, extremist groups. This is basically the FBI hijacking low level criminal informants, many on the fringes of organized crime and the drug trade. They are using them to bait traditional organized crime into a national civil rights conspiracy. This was done with the Klan and was a very effective FBI technique to dismantle white hate groups. The collateral damage of this destructive exercise in social engineering is at least 200,000 and perhaps as many as 500,000 victims nationwide. I am still compiling evidence, etc., to clarify the scope of this.
     I would be interested if the latest comment posted could identify the state he or his family lives in, and, if comfortable, the city.

anonnr@yahoo.com  (from the st)  sorry for the delay

I'm the person from the southern tier trying to contact the person from the fingerlakes region.

A "guest viewpoint" piece titled:

Organized stalking must stop  by Tomo Shibata

http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20108210306

The posted comments are not favorable, as one might expect.

First and most important, it's critical for those attacked by any coordinated gang stalking, specifically "electronic gang stalking", understand what it is and how it is implemented. What the types of gang stalking methods entail and how to counter or defeat their effectiveness. Below are some terms of interest:
 
Mind Control Attacks (Mindcon), Neurological Weapons Attacks, Electronic Attacks, Electronic Harassment, Electronic Implants and Brain State Monitoring / Brain State Control, Brain Entrainment, Brainwashing, Brainwave Signatures, Mind Reading (Mindread), Behavioral Modification, Body Control (Bodycon), Brain Stimulation, Subliminal Mind Control Programming Technologies, Ultrasonic Mind Control, Manchurian Candidates, Electronic Gang Stalking, Binaural Beats, Voice-to-Skull V2K Technology, Gang Stalking, (EWS)Electronic Weapons Systems, (DEW) Directed Energy Weapons, (EWSI) Electronic Weapon System Implants, (FLIR) Forward Looking Infrared ( thermal 

 (FLIR) Forward Looking Infrared ( thermal 

I have been gang stalked since Sept. of 2008, that I know of. I wrote a small book showing that the place in the wilderness where the true church is protected from the reign of the anti-christ is in fact our rights under the constitution and the bill of rights. It took me months to figure out that they could actually read my thoughts. I was held in jail for ten days and gassed for the first three with chemical agents. I was followed all the way to Israel where I lived for 3 months before coming back to Mwsquite Nevada and starting over. It was intense at times. The agents at the airport in NY were paging a supposed person named Christian Die while looking me in the eye. Sometimes hundreds of agents were used. I forgive them and pray they will repent so they won't be destroyed at the second coming. It really is true that they push every button you have to try and get you to give up. I have not been given a spirit of fear however but one of power and love and a sound mind. Thank God for the Son Jesus Christ.

There doesn't seem to be anyone helping victims of organized group stalking.  You have many websites and resources that provide nothing.  My family is slowly being murdered by electronic weapons.  This is being sanctioned by the government, local police and entire communities.  They are attacking me, my nine-year old son and now my elderly parents because I sought refuge in their home.  I have an RFID in my body yet I am not supposed to tell anyone or they will think I am crazy.  So I just have to suffer being attacked every day by God knows what they are doing to me.  Has the world gone mad?

Before you jump to the conclusion of an implant or RFID please be careful. There are few documented cases of nonconsensual implants and you sound like a nut or government disinformation agent. Are you sure you are not being electronically spied on so inttrusively that you believe you have an implant? Have you considered your cell phone may be being used to track you? Do you know large numbers of stalkers in communication with each other can make you feel you are being murdered?